37: Joseph's Failed Prophecies | Revelations Pt. 3

37: Joseph's Failed Prophecies | Revelations Pt. 3

Author: Mormon Stories Podcast March 10, 2023 Duration: 2:13:59

In this engaging interview, Mike from LDS Discussions, Nemo the Mormon, and John Dehlin review the failed prophecies of Mormonism's founder, Joseph. They start by discussing what the Bible says about failed prophecies and those who tell them. They then delve into specific failed prophecies, including the Second Coming of the Lord in 1891, the fall and overthrow of the US government, and the "everlasting" covenant of the United Order. Other failed prophecies discussed include the failed treasure seeking mission to Salem and the failed attempt to sell the Book of Mormon copyright.

Was Joseph wrong or is it was God's fault? What good is having General Conference, either way? The hosts also discuss how FAIR Mormon tries to spin failures into fulfillments and concludes with some final thoughts on the implications of these failed prophecies of Joseph for Mormons today.

LDS Discussion Essay on Joseph Smith's Revelations.

Donate to Nemo

Episode Show Notes

_________________________

LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors!
Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:

LDS Discussions Platforms:

Contact LDS Discussions:

Contact us:

MormonStories@gmail.com

PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117

Social Media:


Hosted by the Mormon Stories Podcast, LDS Discussions-Mormon Truth Claims Examined offers a dedicated space for deep, methodical exploration of foundational narratives and historical doctrines within the Latter-day Saint tradition. This isn't about quick takes or surface-level debate. Instead, each episode commits to a slow, careful examination of specific truth claims, prioritizing a thoughtful and objective analysis over polemics. You'll hear detailed discussions that delve into historical documents, theological evolution, and the complex interplay between faith and history, all approached with a sincere intent to understand. The conversations within this podcast are built on research and a genuine desire for clarity, providing listeners with a comprehensive perspective often absent from simpler narratives. If you're someone, whether inside, outside, or simply curious about the LDS faith, who values nuance and evidence-based dialogue, this series serves as a unique resource. It fosters an environment where challenging questions are met with serious consideration, making it a distinctly substantive entry in the landscape of religion and spirituality podcasts. The aim is to equip you with context and depth, allowing for more informed personal reflection on matters that are deeply significant to many.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 71

LDS Discussions - Mormon Truth Claims Examined
Podcast Episodes
20: Word of Wisdom [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:42:47
John and Mike discuss the origins and influences around Joseph Smith and the Creation of the Word of Wisdom.LDS Discussions Essay on Word of WisdomEpisode Show Notes=========================LDS Discussions is made possib…
19: Changes to the Doctrine & Covenants [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:22:45
John and Mike take a look at the timeline of Joseph Smith's accounts of the revelation and restoration of the LDS Concept of priesthood.LDS Discussion Essay on Changes to Doctrine & CovenantsEpisode Show Notes===========…
18: Priesthood Restoration [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:59:15
Join John & Mike as they discuss the timeline for the restoration of the Priesthood compared to the current Church narrative.LDS Discussions Essay on Priesthood RestorationEpisode Show Notes=========================LDS D…
17: Joseph Smith's First Vision [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:18:17
John and Mike take a look at the timeline of Joseph Smith's First Vision accounts against the official church narrative.LDS Discussion Essay on Joseph Smith's First VisionEpisode Show Notes=========================LDS Di…
16: Deutero-Isaiah in the Book of Mormon [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:36:32
Join John and Mike, from LDS Discussions for an introduction to the multiple authors of Isaiah and what that means for the Book of Mormon.LDS Discussions Essay on Deutero-Isaiah in the Book of MormonEpisode Show Notes===…
15: The Long Ending of Mark in the Book of Mormon [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 52:12
A look at how a late addition to the New Testament ended up in the Book of Mormon and what that tells us about the Book of Mormon’s credibility as an ancient text.LDS Discussions Essay on the Long Ending of MarkEpisode S…
14: The Sermon on the Mount in the Book of Mormon [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:14:05
We dive into the Sermon on the Mount and look at why it appears in the Book of Mormon along with what the changes tell us about the author of the Book of Mormon.LDS Discussions Essay on the Sermon on the MountEpisode Sho…
13: The Tower of Babel and Mormon Scripture [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:03:17
We review the historicity of the Tower of Babel and how the story is written into the Book of Mormon and directly leads to the stones that Joseph Smith claims were buried with the gold plates.LDS Discussions Essay on the…
12: The Global Flood and Mormon Scripture [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:31:01
Join John and Mike from LDS Discussions breaking down how the story of Noah, the arc, and the global flood is necessary for the veracity of Mormon scripture/doctrine, and a closer look at the historicity of the Biblical…
11: Adam & Eve and Mormon Truth Claims [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:25:53
A look at the historicity of Adam and Eve and the impact that scholarship has on the scriptures of Mormonism.LDS Discussions Essay on Adam & EveEpisode Show Notes=========================LDS Discussions is made possible…