The Attention War Between Email, TikTok, and Netflix with Alin Dragu

The Attention War Between Email, TikTok, and Netflix with Alin Dragu

Author: Igor Kheifets March 12, 2026 Duration: 1:12:21

<!--td {border: 1px solid #cccccc;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}-->In this episode of The List Building Lifestyle, Igor sits down with Alin Dragu, creator of the Copy Creator Club and author of Meaningful Marketing. Alin runs a creator-driven business centered around one daily email sent at 5:15 a.m. His philosophy blends storytelling, persuasion, and lifestyle design into a system that prioritizes freedom over scale. This conversation explores the psychology of storytelling, building a clientless business, documenting your journey publicly, and why daily emails remain one of the most powerful ways to build relationships online.


Igor Kheifets hosts List Building Lifestyle With Igor Kheifets, a podcast that moves beyond the hype of quick fixes to explore the real, systematic work of building an email list as the foundation for a sustainable business and a more autonomous life. The conversations here are grounded in the practicalities of marketing and entrepreneurship, dissecting the strategies that actually convert audience attention into a reliable asset. You'll hear detailed breakdowns of lead generation tactics, audience nurturing, and the conversion processes that allow for genuine financial growth, all discussed with a focus on creating a lifestyle that isn't dictated by a traditional office clock. This isn't about vague inspiration; it's a direct look at the mechanics of constructing a valuable email list-an asset you own and control. Each episode of this podcast serves as a step-by-step guide, pulling from Igor's own experiences and those of his guests, to help you design a business that funds the freedom you're seeking. The tone is straightforward and actionable, making complex marketing concepts accessible for anyone tired of the corporate grind and ready to build something of their own. Tune in for honest talk about the work, the mindset shifts, and the specific email list-building techniques that can redefine your relationship with work and income.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 50

List Building Lifestyle With Igor Kheifets
Podcast Episodes
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Duration: 8:46
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