CL: The Chemist Turned Crypto Trader - [Web3 Breakdowns, EP.77]

CL: The Chemist Turned Crypto Trader - [Web3 Breakdowns, EP.77]

Author: Colossus | Investing & Business Podcasts July 10, 2023 Duration: 57:36

This is Eric Golden and my guest today is CL207, also known as CL or Cat, one of the most popular anonymous accounts on crypto Twitter. I have followed him since I got into crypto and, like many, have always wanted to learn more about the person behind the account. CL is academically trained in chemistry and had no finance background before he began trading crypto. He made no money for 2 years but over time has evolved into an extremely thoughtful and intelligent trader.

We start this conversation with one of the weirdest and most fun back stories we've ever had on the show. We then dive deep into CL's trading journey and bring this process to life with examples. We end the conversation on a variety of topics like fashion, anonymity, virtual reality and more. Cat is a highly original and interesting thinker. Talking to him was an absolute blast. 


For the full show notes, transcript, and links to the best content to learn more, check out the episode page here.


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Show Notes

(00:02:23) - (First question) - Who Cat was before he started trading crypto and where his avatar came from

(00:06:48) - Where his convictions came from to stick out trading crypto with no experience

(00:10:21) - Finding an edge using intuition and mentally quantitative processes

(00:12:53) - Putting together behavior and patterns to find market opportunities 

(00:14:49) - Where he would start to get a sense of the market if he stepped away for a while

(00:16:25) - His average holding period and whether or not he trades based on news

(00:18:13) - What his trading day looked like today 

(00:19:23) - His trading track record and how what he’s learned as changed his relationship with risk  

(00:22:07) - Never working a job and being risk averse after becoming successful 

(00:24:22) - Digging deep until you find an edge in the market 

(00:26:13) - Sources of information and where the most alpha is amongst them 

(00:28:02) - Whether or not narratives and chats have influenced his trading 

(00:29:17) - How his focus has changed as he’s accumulated wealth 

(00:31:33) - Having a passion for fashion and what captivates him about it

(00:33:41) - Thoughts on anonymity and the pros and cons of it in the digital age

(00:37:10) - Engaging with an avatar that has expressive emotions 

(00:39:21) - Becoming Twitter famous and befriending Edward Snowden

(00:41:59) - Whether or not he misses being a chemist 

(00:45:07) - Giving your kid money to trade online hoping they get rugged 

(00:47:35) - The Vision Pro and being incredibly bullish on virtual reality 

(00:55:24) - The crossover of meeting someone in a virtual world that you’re interested in 

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Eric Golden hosts Making Markets, a podcast that digs into the often unseen mechanics and human behaviors driving how value is assigned and traded. Rather than just analyzing charts or headlines, conversations focus on the underlying architecture-the rules, relationships, and psychology-that defines how any marketplace functions. This approach means that one episode might dissect the familiar terrain of bonds or equities, while the next ventures into the specialized worlds of fine art, cryptocurrency, or even vineyard acquisitions. The common thread is a curiosity about the actual transactions and the people who facilitate them, providing a tangible sense of what occurs when assets change hands. By speaking with practitioners and experts each week, the show demystifies the complex systems that form the backbone of global commerce, offering listeners a clearer picture of economic forces at work. As part of the Colossus network of investing and business podcasts, Making Markets builds a comprehensive library of knowledge, turning abstract concepts into accessible narratives. It’s for anyone who has ever wondered about the real-world machinery operating behind the curtain of daily financial news.
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