Third Option Between Working and Retiring (Afford Anything Podcast w/ Paula Pant) (BEST OF MKM)

Third Option Between Working and Retiring (Afford Anything Podcast w/ Paula Pant) (BEST OF MKM)

Author: Andy Hill December 31, 2025 Duration: 1:06:21
What if there was a third option between grinding it out in corporate life and chasing extreme early retirement? What if you could work less, be more present with your family, and still feel confident about your financial future? In today’s episode, I join Paula Pant on her top-ranked podcast, Afford Anything, to talk about the middle ground between traditional employment and full FIRE. We dive into Coast FIRE, part-time work, and what it really takes to own your time while raising kids. I share how my wife and I structured our lives to both work part time, stay involved with our kids, and still build long term wealth without burning out. This conversation is part of our Best of MKM series and was originally recorded live at FinCon in Portland. Paula and I walk through my 10-step framework for owning your time, including how to reduce financial anxiety, eliminate debt, invest with intention, and design a three-day work week that supports your family and your health. We also talk candidly about parenting, identity, lifestyle tradeoffs, and how to model a life of freedom and generosity for your kids. If you are tired of living for the weekend and want a realistic path to more time freedom, this conversation will open your eyes to what is possible. CHAPTERS 🎧 0:00 Intro and Best of MKM setup 1:10 Meeting Paula Pant and Afford Anything 2:30 Why two working parents chose part time work 5:10 Designing a balanced family schedule 8:00 Being present during pivotal childhood years 12:05 Identity beyond work 15:10 The 10 steps to owning your time 18:00 Eliminating debt and financial anxiety 22:00 Reaching Coast FIRE 25:30 Why paying off the mortgage matters 30:00 FU money and career flexibility 35:00 Designing a three day work week 40:00 Health insurance outside corporate life 45:00 Avoiding lifestyle creep 50:00 Teaching kids generational wealth habits 1:00:30 Where to learn more about Andy and Own Your Time RESOURCES 📚 Own Your Timehttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book Track Your Spending and Net Worth with Monarch Moneyhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/monarchmoney Coast FIRE Calculatorhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/calculators/coast-fire/ Afford Anything Podcasthttps://affordanything.com HOW WE MAKE MONEY + DISCLAIMER ⚠️ This show may contain affiliate links or links from our sponsors where we earn a commission, direct payment, or products at no extra cost to you. Opinions are our own. Information shared on this podcast is for entertainment purposes only and should not be considered professional financial advice. Always seek the guidance of a licensed financial professional for your specific situation. Marriage Kids and Money (https://www.marriagekidsandmoney.com) is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by linking to Amazon.com. CREDITS 🎙️ Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Editor: Johnny Sohl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Andy Hill brings a refreshingly honest and practical voice to the often stressful conversation about money within a family. In Marriage Kids and Money: Personal Finance for Families, Andy, an award-winning Family Finance Coach, moves beyond generic budgeting advice to tackle the real financial questions that parents and couples face every day. This isn't just about spreadsheets and interest rates; it's about aligning your finances with the life you actually want to live. You'll hear specific strategies for paying off debt, saving for college, investing for the future, and having those crucial money talks with your partner. The goal is to transform financial anxiety into purposeful action, creating not just stability but genuine freedom. Each episode of the podcast feels like a conversation with a knowledgeable friend who understands that financial decisions are deeply personal and intertwined with family goals. Whether you're just starting out or well on your journey, the discussions here provide a roadmap for building security today and considering the legacy you might leave tomorrow. Tune in for relatable stories, actionable tips, and the encouragement needed to make meaningful progress with your money, all with your family's unique vision at the center.
Author: Language: en-us Episodes: 100

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