Tess Lawrie

Tess Lawrie

Author: Chris Masterjohn, PhD December 12, 2021 Duration: 1:26:43

In this episode, I interview Tess Lawrie about Iver Mixin', public health corruption, and C-word juices.

Tess is a medical doctor with expertise in research analysis and has served as an external consultant for groups at Cochrane and the World Health Organization.

She holds an MBBCh and PhD. She is the Director of the Evidence-based Medicine Consultancy Ltd, and CEO of EbMCsquared CiC, an independent, a not for profit, health-focused think tank, based in Bath, in the United Kingdom. She is also the founder of the British Ivermectin Recommendation Development initiative (now called BiRD International) and a co-founder of the new World Council for Health. If you haven't yet heard of it, The World Council for Health is a coalition of more than 80 international health advocacy organisations in more than 30 countries.

Important Links

The World Council for Health at https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/

Her research on pubmed: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=lawrie-ta

In the interview, we talk about updates to her meta-analysis:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34469921/

And Andrew Hill's:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34410284/

Timestamps

01:15 Tess's Bio
04:33 The interview begins
05:27 How she went from Ob/Gyn to research analysis, serving as a consultant for Cochrane and the WHO
08:54 How she got involved in the "horse drug"
14:43 Political and financial obstruction of ivermectin research
23:37 Why her meta-analysis and Andrew Hill's came to radically different conclusions
31:11 Why focusing exclusively on randomized controlled trials is nonsense
35:32 Public health manipulating preferences instead of acknowledging and serving them
37:05 Mortality in "horse drug" studies versus juice studies
40:34 How regulatory agencies are failing to represent us
45:32 The course of the viral illness
47:03 What she did when she had the C-word
52:06 What she does for prevention
55:42 "Horse drug" as a prophylactic?
1:01:25 Her take on the C-word juices
01:07:21 Interpreting the adverse efffect data: Underreported or overreported? Causal?
01:17:05 Rapid fire questions: HCQ, juice mandates, liability shields, masks, lockdowns
01:20:51 Introducing the World Council for Health

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