Episode 52: Mik Kersten on the 2023 Project to Product State of the Industry Report

Episode 52: Mik Kersten on the 2023 Project to Product State of the Industry Report

Author: Dr. Mik Kersten: Author of Project to Product and Founder and CEO of Tasktop March 21, 2023 Duration: 54:24
In this episode of Mik + One, we’re flipping the script! Debbie Konrad, an early Value Stream Management advocate, interviews Mik. The two discuss a new report, the 2023 Project to Product State of the Industry Report, that analyzed anonymized data from 2022 of 3600+ software delivery teams representing over 38,000 business product owners and engineers combined with 326 targeted survey respondents in 34 of the world’s leading enterprises. It revealed that five years into the shift from project to product, following the publication of Mik's seminal book on the subject, only 8 percent of sample have operationalized the product model. Debbie and Mik discuss how the report’s findings are timely and relevant, as technology leaders are under increasing pressure to match tech giants and unicorns on digital innovation and wrestle the competitive advantage from the hands of a few companies. In this episode, Mik shares how to shift the management approach in digital portfolios from a project to a product-based model. Debbie and Mik also address the importance of combining systems data with survey data in order to provide additional insights into the adoption curve of value stream management. Key discussions include:  The 2023 Project to Product State of the Industry Report The seven dimensions of change required for a product operating model Product Management Maturity Insights from the 2021 State of Value Stream Management Report The Journey from Product Experimentation to Operationalization Survey Responses and System Data on Product Operating Model Transformations Autonomy and Dependencies for High Performance Teams The Benefits of Value Management for Software Development Teams Implementing Build and Run Teams for Software at Scale The Importance of Backlog Management and Prioritization in Product Management Creating an Effective Product Management Function: Strategies for Success Exploring the Benefits of Flow Metrics for Improved Efficiency and Time to Market Subscribe to the Mik + One podcast today so you never miss an episode and don’t forget to leave your review. Follow Mik on Twitter: @mik_kersten #MikPlusOne www.planview.com Additional Resources: Download the 2023 Project to Product State of the Industry Report and connect with Debbie Portfolio SAFe Dean Leffingwell on the Mik + One Podcast: Part 1, Part 2 MarTech Dave West - podcast episode Learn more and join the Flow Framework Community here For more information on the 2023 Project to Product State of the Industry Report, go here: https://projecttoproduct.org/podcast/mik-kersten-interview

Dr. Mik Kersten’s book, Project to Product, sparked a fundamental shift in how large organizations think about software delivery. That conversation continues and deepens in Mik + One: The Official Project to Product Podcast. Here, Kersten moves beyond the stage and the prepared keynote to host candid, unrehearsed dialogues with the people actually steering the world’s most significant technology-driven companies. Each episode is built around a simple, powerful premise: one guest, one conversation with nothing held back. You’ll hear from fellow authors, executives, and engineering leaders as they dissect the real-world application of flow frameworks and product-centric thinking. The discussions get into the granular challenges of shifting from project-oriented deadlines to sustainable product value streams, covering both the strategic wins and the difficult lessons learned. This isn't about abstract theory; it's a direct line to the tactics and philosophies used by industry pioneers. For anyone involved in technology business management-from team leads to the C-suite-this podcast serves as an essential masterclass. Listeners gain access to the nuanced, often unspoken details of scaling digital innovation, all through the lens of Kersten’s expertise and his guests' diverse experiences. The result is a consistently insightful resource for navigating the complex journey of modern digital transformation.
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Episode 17: John Willis on Your Most Pressing Bottleneck [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 53:42
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Episode 15: Adrian Cockcroft on the CEO’s Most Critical Metric [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:06:25
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Episode 14: Heather Munoz on Visualizing Systems Thinking [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 34:02
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