Episode 60: Robin Yeman and Dr. Suzette Johnson on Implementing Lean, Agile, and DevOps Principles

Episode 60: Robin Yeman and Dr. Suzette Johnson on Implementing Lean, Agile, and DevOps Principles

Author: Dr. Mik Kersten: Author of Project to Product and Founder and CEO of Tasktop October 15, 2024 Duration: 52:02
Joining Mik in this episode of Mik + One are industry luminaries Dr. Suzette Johnson and Robin Yeman. Suzette and Robin explore the integration of lean, agile, and digital methodologies into the increasingly complex realm of cyber-physical systems. They share compelling insights from their recently published book, "Industrial DevOps: Build Better Systems Faster." Suzette and Robin also stress the importance of integrating agile practices beyond software into hardware and the broader cyber-physical ecosystem, highlighting real-world examples and debunking common misconceptions.    Listen as Mik, Suzette, and Robin reflect on the evolution from small team agility to expansive, multifunctional team cohesion.     Key discussions include: Agile Beyond Software: Agile isn't limited to software; it can and should extend into hardware and cyber-physical systems for holistic efficiency. Importance of a Multi-Horizon Planning: Implementing multiple horizons of planning bridges the gap between short-term agility and long-term strategy. Role of Leadership: Leadership at all levels—especially in setting objectives and prioritizing work—plays a crucial role in the successful adoption of agile and DevOps practices. Data-Driven Decisions: Emphasizing the importance of using empirical data to constantly refine plans and reduce uncertainties. Continuous Learning and Growth Mindset: A perpetual state of learning and adaptation is necessary to keep pace with technological advancement and project complexities.   Subscribe to the Mik + One podcast today so you never miss an episode and don’t forget to leave your review. Follow Mik on Twitter: @mik_kersten #MikPlusOne Additional Resources: Portfolio SAFe MarTech Scrum Studio Greenfield project Skunkworks Bimodal IT Agile Release Train Mik + One Podcast Episode 20: Justin Watts Join the Flow Framework Community

Dr. Mik Kersten’s book, Project to Product, sparked a fundamental shift in how large organizations think about software delivery. That conversation continues and deepens in Mik + One: The Official Project to Product Podcast. Here, Kersten moves beyond the stage and the prepared keynote to host candid, unrehearsed dialogues with the people actually steering the world’s most significant technology-driven companies. Each episode is built around a simple, powerful premise: one guest, one conversation with nothing held back. You’ll hear from fellow authors, executives, and engineering leaders as they dissect the real-world application of flow frameworks and product-centric thinking. The discussions get into the granular challenges of shifting from project-oriented deadlines to sustainable product value streams, covering both the strategic wins and the difficult lessons learned. This isn't about abstract theory; it's a direct line to the tactics and philosophies used by industry pioneers. For anyone involved in technology business management-from team leads to the C-suite-this podcast serves as an essential masterclass. Listeners gain access to the nuanced, often unspoken details of scaling digital innovation, all through the lens of Kersten’s expertise and his guests' diverse experiences. The result is a consistently insightful resource for navigating the complex journey of modern digital transformation.
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