NEW: The Zodiac Killer with Michael Butterfield (Part 2)

NEW: The Zodiac Killer with Michael Butterfield (Part 2)

Author: William F. Thomas and Kristin M. Dilley May 19, 2025 Duration: 36:03

Michael Butterfield, author of "The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's Most Elusive Murderer," joins "Mind Over Murder" cohosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new book, his longtime research into the still unsolved Zodiac case, and his website, ZodiacKillerFacts.com. Will Zodiac ever be identified?  Will the remaining Zodiac ciphers be solved?  Are there really similarities between the Zodiac case and the Colonial Parkway Murders? This is Part 2 of 2 parts on the Zodiac with Michael Butterfield.

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Amazon:  The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's Most Elusive Murderer

https://www.amazon.com/Zodiac-Killer-Americas-Elusive-Murderer/dp/1398851779?author-follow=B0F4RS214F

ZodiacKillerFacts.com website:

https://zodiackillerfacts.com/about/

Washingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:

https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/

WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?

https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand

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WTVR CBS News:  Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:

https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024

WAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:

https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/

Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.

13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:

https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49

WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:

https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/

WTKR News 3

https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases

Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017

https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/

Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase

You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders

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Behind the microphone of Mind Over Murder are William F. Thomas and Kristin M. Dilley, two voices shaped by profoundly different yet converging paths. Bill is not just an entertainment executive; he carries the personal weight of a family tragedy, having lost his younger sister Cathy Thomas and her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski to the still-haunting Colonial Parkway Murders. Kristin brings her background as a researcher and teacher to the table, applying a meticulous and thoughtful lens to each story they explore. Together, they move beyond the sensational headlines to examine the human cost of violence, the intricate process of investigation, and the long, often painful road toward resolution. This isn't a passive listening experience. Each episode of the Mind Over Murder podcast is built on a foundation of advocacy and deep, personal investment, offering a perspective that only those directly touched by such loss can fully provide. You'll hear detailed analysis of cases, conversations that grapple with the complexities of justice, and an unwavering focus on the victims and the families left searching for answers. It's a careful, respectful exploration of true crime, where the emphasis rests on understanding over exploitation, making it a distinct and compelling entry in the genre.
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BONUS: Chowchilla Kidnapping w FBI Profiler Jim Clemente [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 45:20
"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley meet with former FBI Profiler (and producer and writer) Jim Clemente to discuss the parole process for the 3 men convicted in mass kidnapping of 26 elementa…
NEW: Reporter Kevin Fixler on Idaho 4 Case [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 56:45
Kevin Fixler, investigative reporter for the Idaho Statesman, joins "Mind Over Murder" cohosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas to discuss murder of Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogen, four col…
NEW: Idaho 4 Victim Impact Statements (Part 2) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 34:26
"Mind Over Murder" cohosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas discuss the victim impact statements provided by family and friends of Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogen, four college students murd…
NEW: Idaho 4 Victim Impact Statements (Part 1) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 44:07
"Mind Over Murder" cohosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas discuss the victim impact statements provided by family and friends of Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogen, four college students murd…
BONUS: Chowchilla Kidnap Parole w Prosecutor Matt Murphy [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 47:25
"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley meet with retired prosecutor Matt Murphy to discuss the parole process for the 3 men convicted in mass kidnapping of 26 elementary school students and their…
NEW: Confession Killers w Katherine Ramsland [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 49:01
Criminal Psychologist Katherine Ramsland joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss confession killers, those criminals who confess to murders and other serious crimes that they did not c…
BONUS: Chowchilla Mass Kidnapping Case [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 45:20
"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mass kidnapping of 26 elementary school students and their bus driver in rural Chowchilla, California. The crime, the largest mass kidnapping in…
NEW: New Bedford Serial Killings w Maureen Boyle [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 40:32
Author and journalist Maureen Boyle joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her book "Shallow Graves: The Hunt for the New Bedford Highway Serial Killer." The book tells the harrowing…
NEW: Bryan Kohberger Pleads Guilty to Idaho 4 Murder (Part 2) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 43:21
"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the bombshell news that suspect Bryan Kohberger has agreed to plead guilty to murdering 4 college students, Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves…
NEW: Bryan Kohberger Pleads Guilty to Idaho 4 Murder (Part 1) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 42:20
"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the bombshell news that suspect Bryan Kohberger has agreed to plead guilty to murdering 4 college students, Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves…