416: Behind the Sessions: Grief and Identity When IVF Doesn’t End with a Baby

416: Behind the Sessions: Grief and Identity When IVF Doesn’t End with a Baby

Author: Katayune Kaeni, Psy.D., PMH-C May 15, 2025 Duration: 31:20
A wide range of perinatal mental health topics come up in my therapy practice, including issues with conception, birth, postpartum, and much more. I frequently see people go through multiple rounds of IVF and other assisted reproductive technologies through years of struggles to have a child. Often overlooked in these attempts is the impact when these efforts do not result in a baby, and this experience needs to be acknowledged and discussed. Multiple attempts with unsuccessful outcomes can be the end of their journey to have a baby. Tough decisions have to be made when age, mental and physical health, and financial resources force an end to their hopes and dreams. Today’s episode focuses on the intense grief and profound identity shifts that can occur when all of those best efforts do not result in a baby.  Show Highlights: There is no timeline for the grief and depression someone may feel when their motherhood dream ends. People go into the IVF process believing that persistence WILL result in a child. The relationship with your own body becomes complicated, especially when there are no answers. Dealing with well-intentioned people with unending advice adds to the pressure you feel. This kind of grief becomes invisible. Being a mother might be intertwined with your sense of purpose and identity in the world. Profound, life-altering grief can accompany your loss of identity. Therapy can be helpful and offer you a safe space. Grief does not have to be a hopeless process. It’s okay to feel what you feel. Dr. Kat’s words of hope to those who are grieving Resources: Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services.  You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.   Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hosted by psychologist and perinatal mental health specialist Dr. Katayune Kaeni, the Mom and Mind podcast creates a vital space for conversations that are often left in the shadows. While postpartum depression is a critical starting point, this series explores the entire spectrum of perinatal mood and anxiety disorders, from anxiety and OCD to the complex emotions that many new parents experience but feel unprepared to discuss. Dr. Kat, as she’s known to listeners, brings both professional expertise and deep empathy to each episode, sitting down with mothers, fathers, clinicians, and advocates to share real stories and practical strategies. You’ll hear honest dialogues about coping, managing daily life, and the nuanced path to recovery, all framed within the understanding that mental health is foundational to family health. This isn’t about quick fixes, but about building resilience and finding community through shared experience. The Mom and Mind podcast consistently goes beyond surface-level advice, delving into the raw, complicated, and hopeful realities of parenting’s early stages. It’s a resource that acknowledges the full picture of becoming a parent, offering validation and evidence-based guidance when it’s needed most. Tune in for conversations that are as informative as they are genuinely supportive.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 100

Mom and Mind | Pregnancy and Postpartum Depression & Anxiety
Podcast Episodes
Birth Trauma: Gaps in Care and Advocacy for Change (Ep. 479) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 39:46
If you’re one of the many mothers who has experienced birth trauma, you’ve likely battled shame, anger, confusion, among other emotions. Today’s guest discusses her story of birth trauma, including the effects of the exp…
A Postpartum Psychosis Journey: From Healing to Advocacy (Ep. 478) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 40:24
Today’s guest shares her personal story of postpartum psychosis with an underlying bipolar disorder. Her experience has inspired her passion for advocacy on behalf of other mothers who need support and the assurance that…
Embodied Motherhood: Postpartum and Beyond (Ep. 476) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 45:06
Today’s episode takes a deep dive into learning to listen to your body and understanding how this knowledge can support you through motherhood. Trusting your body with a deep connectedness can help you heal your relation…
Perinatal Mental Health Risks: Using the HEAL MAMAS Tool (Ep. 473) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 31:26
Today’s episode focuses on the HEAL MAMAS advocacy tool and the importance of understanding risk factors for perinatal mental health. Women and their providers need to know the risks for PMADs and the screening process.…