424: The Impacts of “Mom Shame” on Mental Health with Allie Barker, LCSW

424: The Impacts of “Mom Shame” on Mental Health with Allie Barker, LCSW

Author: Katayune Kaeni, Psy.D., PMH-C June 23, 2025 Duration: 38:59
In this important episode, we explore mom shame, the difference between guilt and shame, and common triggers for guilt. One of the biggest contributors to mom shame is societal pressure, so we want to shed light on navigating this issue and breaking the cycle of shame. My expert guest for this topic is Allie Barker, LCSW. Allie is excited to bring her insight to today’s conversation about dismantling the overwhelming experience of mom shame. Join us to learn more! Allie Barker is a licensed clinical social worker specializing in perinatal mental health. She has been in private practice since 2020 and has been clinically practicing since 2018. After experiencing a difficult pregnancy during the pandemic and navigating postpartum anxiety, depression, and OCD, she realized how common, yet isolating, these struggles are. This led her to shift her entire clinical focus to supporting individuals through fertility challenges, pregnancy, and postpartum transitions. As a therapist, Allie is passionate about helping parents navigate the mental and emotional challenges that come with new parenthood, from facing unrealistic societal expectations to combating the deep-rooted shame that prevents someone from finding joy in the small moments. She brings professional expertise and personal understanding to these conversations, creating a compassionate and judgment-free space for parents. Outside of work, Allie is a mom with a four-year-old daughter, a wife, and an animal mom to several dogs, ducks, and pigs.  Show Highlights: Understanding mom shame and the myth of mom guilt The effects of societal expectations on moms around everyday occurrences in parenthood Support for parents begins with awareness, identifying your values, and setting realistic goals The best way to dismantle mom shame is to have relevant conversations with your partner during pregnancy. It’s okay when your values don’t match up with those of books, experts, and social media. The impacts on your mental health when you feel like a failure all the time Guard against lofty motherhood goals that set you up for failure! Every mom feels like “the only one,” and shame breeds isolation. Scary thoughts, fears, and OCD (Name it and say it out loud to safe, supportive people!) Allie’s work to support parents with compassion and self-compassion A parent who admits mistakes and apologizes gives their child space to make mistakes and apologize for them. (It’s an opportunity to teach compassion.) Being vulnerable and listening to vulnerability can help break the cycle. Resources: Connect with Allie Barker:⁠ Website⁠ Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit⁠ cdph.ca.gov⁠ Please find resources in English and Spanish at⁠ Postpartum Support International⁠, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services.  You can also follow PSI on social media:⁠ Instagram⁠,⁠ Facebook⁠, and most other platforms. Visit⁠ www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/⁠ for information on the grief course.   Visit my website,⁠ www.wellmindperinatal.com⁠, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident seeking a therapist in perinatal mental health, please email me about openings for private pay clients. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hosted by psychologist and perinatal mental health specialist Dr. Katayune Kaeni, the Mom and Mind podcast creates a vital space for conversations that are often left in the shadows. While postpartum depression is a critical starting point, this series explores the entire spectrum of perinatal mood and anxiety disorders, from anxiety and OCD to the complex emotions that many new parents experience but feel unprepared to discuss. Dr. Kat, as she’s known to listeners, brings both professional expertise and deep empathy to each episode, sitting down with mothers, fathers, clinicians, and advocates to share real stories and practical strategies. You’ll hear honest dialogues about coping, managing daily life, and the nuanced path to recovery, all framed within the understanding that mental health is foundational to family health. This isn’t about quick fixes, but about building resilience and finding community through shared experience. The Mom and Mind podcast consistently goes beyond surface-level advice, delving into the raw, complicated, and hopeful realities of parenting’s early stages. It’s a resource that acknowledges the full picture of becoming a parent, offering validation and evidence-based guidance when it’s needed most. Tune in for conversations that are as informative as they are genuinely supportive.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 100

Mom and Mind | Pregnancy and Postpartum Depression & Anxiety
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