From Fertility to Parenthood: Better Care for BIPOC Families with Dr. Suzanne Mungalez (Ep. 483)

From Fertility to Parenthood: Better Care for BIPOC Families with Dr. Suzanne Mungalez (Ep. 483)

Author: Katayune Kaeni, Psy.D., PMH-C July 27, 2026 Duration: 42:28
There are internal and societal pressures in making birthing and parenting decisions that are magnified for the BIPOC community. My guest explains how incorporating ancestral practices can be supportive, shares her valuable work, and highlights the importance of doulas for people of color. Dr. Suzanne Mungalez (aka Dr. Zann) is a licensed clinical psychologist in CA, certified in perinatal mental health, a childbirth educator, a certified lactation education specialist, and a trained doula. She has worked in hospital settings and birthing centers alongside OB-GYNs, midwives, and other birth workers. She is black, Congolese-American, and queer, along with being a gender-expansive woman and mother who has given birth in the comfort of her own home. Her background and experience shape her expertise in clinical work and how she holds space for her patients. Dr. Zann describes herself as “tender with people, tough on systems, and relentlessly committed to our collective liberation.”  Show Highlights: Dr. Zann’s path to the perinatal work she does today The need to equip people with knowledge Everyone needs support and community! Pressures in birthing and parenting decisions for people of color Dr. Zann’s help includes guided meditation, visualizations, therapy, and education. The benefits of incorporating ancestral background into birth experiences Considerations for people of color in “mom rage” and finding safe spaces to express yourself Understanding the role and benefits of a doula Dr. Zann’s unique support for people in the transition to parenthood Ways of telling your birth story that bring empowerment, healing, and community How things are changing for the better for the BIPOC community—but it’s still not enough! More support is always needed! Dr. Zann’s appeal to people of color Resources: Connect with Dr. Zann  ⁠Website⁠ and ⁠Instagram⁠. Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit⁠ cdph.ca.gov⁠ Please find resources in English and Spanish at⁠ Postpartum Support International⁠, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services.  You can also follow PSI on social media: ⁠Instagram⁠,⁠ Facebook⁠, and most other platforms. Visit ⁠www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/⁠ for information on the grief course.   Visit my website,⁠ www.wellmindperinatal.com⁠, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, ⁠email me⁠ about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hosted by psychologist and perinatal mental health specialist Dr. Katayune Kaeni, the Mom and Mind podcast creates a vital space for conversations that are often left in the shadows. While postpartum depression is a critical starting point, this series explores the entire spectrum of perinatal mood and anxiety disorders, from anxiety and OCD to the complex emotions that many new parents experience but feel unprepared to discuss. Dr. Kat, as she’s known to listeners, brings both professional expertise and deep empathy to each episode, sitting down with mothers, fathers, clinicians, and advocates to share real stories and practical strategies. You’ll hear honest dialogues about coping, managing daily life, and the nuanced path to recovery, all framed within the understanding that mental health is foundational to family health. This isn’t about quick fixes, but about building resilience and finding community through shared experience. The Mom and Mind podcast consistently goes beyond surface-level advice, delving into the raw, complicated, and hopeful realities of parenting’s early stages. It’s a resource that acknowledges the full picture of becoming a parent, offering validation and evidence-based guidance when it’s needed most. Tune in for conversations that are as informative as they are genuinely supportive.
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