National Parks Traveler Podcast | Investigating Recreation.gov

National Parks Traveler Podcast | Investigating Recreation.gov

Author: Kurt Repanshek July 21, 2024 Duration: 47:33

One of the most troublesome aspects of heading out into national parks, national forests, and other federal lands for camping, paddling, or climbing – as well as many other recreational pursuits – is the rising tide of fees to do so. 

There are reservation fees, cancellation fees, fees to change the date of your trip, even fees to gain a priority position to pay a fee for a permit. 

Are these fees, generated through your use of the recreation.gov website that handles most, if not all, of the transactions, reasonable? It's a question the Traveler has followed for a good number of years now, and it doesn't look like a satisfactory answer will be coming soon.

Recently a U.S. senator from California, Alex Padilla, introduced legislation calling for an investigation into the fees these reservations cost the American public. Among the groups hoping that legislation eventually is signed into law is American Whitewater, which advocates for the protection and preservation of whitewater rivers and works to enhance opportunities to enjoy them safely.

Joining us today is Evan Stafford, American Whitewater's communication's director, to discuss recreation.gov and explain his organization's interest in this legislation.

At the end of the show, if you're interested in seeing Sen. Padilla's legislation move forward, here's the link to the Easy Action page Evan mentioned for contacting your senators.


There's a world of stories waiting beyond the park entrance sign, and the National Parks Traveler Podcast is your audio guide to them. Led by Kurt Repanshek, this series goes deeper than trail maps and visitor statistics. It connects the natural wonder you experience firsthand with the crucial, often unseen work happening behind the scenes-the science informing conservation, the cultural histories embedded in the landscape, and the policy decisions that will shape these places for future generations. As the audio companion to the editorially independent nonprofit media organization, this podcast delivers a thoughtful blend of on-the-ground reports, interviews with researchers and park staff, and nuanced discussions about the challenges and triumphs in managing protected areas. You'll hear the sounds of the parks and the voices of the people dedicated to them. Each episode is an invitation to better understand the complex tapestry of ecology, history, and society that makes every national park far more than a scenic destination. Tune in for a regular dose of insight that will deepen your appreciation and perhaps even shape your next journey into America's most treasured public lands.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 100

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