Not Top 40

Tune into Not Top 40 for a weekly dose of musical camaraderie and deep-cut analysis hosted by songwriting veterans Cal Shapiro and Anson Seabra. This isn't your standard chart recap show; it's a freewheeling conversation between two knowledgeable friends who live and breathe pop music. You'll hear them rate new hits, revisit classic albums, and frequently detour into hilarious, personal anecdotes-like the infamous story explaining why Cal no longer raps about cloning sheep. The podcast thrives on this blend of insightful commentary and unscripted camaraderie, making even the most niche musical topics feel accessible and fun. Episodes are packed with interactive segments, occasional interviews with industry folks, and plenty of tangents that somehow always circle back to a shared love for a great melody or a perfectly crafted lyric. Whether you're a die-hard music lover, a Billboard chart statistician, or just someone who enjoys witty, meandering conversations, this podcast offers a refreshingly human take on the soundtracks of our lives. Expect to be informed, entertained, and maybe even convinced to give that song you skipped another chance.