Downstream: Going Undercover With Extremists w/ Julia Ebner

Downstream: Going Undercover With Extremists w/ Julia Ebner

Author: Novara Media July 24, 2023 Duration: 56:47

Since 2016 we’ve seen mainstream politics take a turn for the weird, epitomised by the surprise success of populist projects like Brexit and the election of Donald Trump. Since then, fringe views have continued to muscle into the middle ground, with conspiracy theories and far-right talking points trickling into political discourse.

Julia Ebner has been charting this shift through her undercover work for years, infiltrating neo-Nazis, jihadists and Covid-sceptics to find out how ideas spread, as detailed in her books Going Dark and, most recently, Going Mainstream.

She joins Aaron to talk about how sceptics become extremists, the rise of Andrew Tate, and what it was like to be on the receiving end of Tommy Robinson’s hate campaign.


Tune in to Novara Media for a distinct and probing take on the world as it is, and as it could be. This independent podcast offers a necessary space for the conversations often sidelined elsewhere, weaving together sharp analysis of current affairs with deeper explorations of culture, philosophy and power. Each episode naturally delves into the interconnected crises shaping our time-be it the fraying edges of our economic system, the urgent fight for climate justice, or the enduring struggles against structural inequality. The discussions are built on a foundation of radical thought and a commitment to imagining alternatives, moving beyond the day's headlines to examine the root causes and potential futures. Hosted by the team at Novara Media, the audio format brings a direct, engaging and often challenging perspective, featuring interviews, panel debates and solo commentaries that refuse simplistic answers. It’s for anyone who finds mainstream narratives insufficient and is looking for a podcast that treats politics, society and culture as the complex, urgent and deeply human matters they truly are.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 306

Novara Media
Podcast Episodes
Novara Live: Rishi Sunak Announces July General Election [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:02:20
In the pouring rain and 20 points behind in the polls, Rishi Sunak has announced that a UK general election will take place on 4 July. Michael Walker and Moya Lothian-McLean report. Plus: Ireland, Spain and Norway have a…
Downstream: The Truth About Incels w/ William Costello [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:42:45
The involuntary celibate community (aka ‘incels’) are often thought to be rightwing, white supremacist, and prone to violence. But how much of that is true? Ash Sarkar is joined by William Costello – a researcher whose w…
Novara FM: Living Through the Chinese Miracle w/ Yuan Yang [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:08:58
No country has ever changed so fast as China. From the west, we see only the dazzling headline figures – 15% growth in some years. But it’s on the ground, in the huge shifts in the patterns of daily life, where the story…
Downstream: Individualism is Destroying Our Freedom w/ Grace Blakeley [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:09:23
Common sense tells us that free-market economies maximise freedom and that planned economies, typically found under socialist governments, curtail it. But what if this is completely the wrong way around? On this episode…
Novara FM: Know Your Enemies w/ Matthew Sitman & Sam Adler-Bell [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:28:30
George Bernard Shaw once joked that the US and the UK are “two countries divided by a common language.” Can the same be said of their conservatives? As we brace for a joint election year, Eleanor Penny talks to Sam Adler…
Downstream: George Galloway’s Plan to Destroy the Labour Party [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:25:44
George Galloway has been elected as a member of parliament for four separate constituencies – with only Winston Churchill beating him. Perhaps more remarkably still, he won on three of those occasions while not being a m…
Novara FM: Your Neighbour Kills Puppies w/ Tom Harris [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:25:17
In the ’00s, animal rights protestors nearly won their battle to ban vivisection in the UK, shutting down multiple breeding farms that were supplying laboratories with cats, dogs and guinea pigs. But at the last moment,…