A Fox News fraud: How CIA/intel "expert" Wayne Simmons was exposed by Kent Clizbe

A Fox News fraud: How CIA/intel "expert" Wayne Simmons was exposed by Kent Clizbe

Author: Zachary Elwood January 21, 2026 Duration: 49:05
A talk with former CIA officer Kent Clizbe about his exposure of Wayne Simmons, a man who spent more than a decade on Fox News posing as a CIA counterterrorism expert—but who was a fraud and serial liar. And we talk about how that case mirrors the case of Chase Hughes, who claims to know advanced, top-secret techniques and intelligence, and who has gained many fans, but who is a clear fraud. Topics discussed: how Kent met Wayne Simmons; why he suspected rather quickly he was a fake; how Kent’s intuition about Wayne relates to Kent’s system of holistic contextual analysis, which Kent has a book about; and the negative impacts on Kent’s life from questioning Wayne Simmons. We dig into the psychology of belief, the social and career incentives that keep scams alive, and why fans and followers resist evidence even after it’s laid out clearly.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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