Trump and Reform are right on immigration

Trump and Reform are right on immigration

Author: The Telegraph September 25, 2025 Duration: 1:01:43

With Trump giving a dressing down to the UN and Starmer clinging on amid yet more scandals, there is no shortness of madness for your co-pilots to get their teeth into!


Returning crew member Danny Kruger straps in to explain why he defected to Reform after so many years in the Conservative Party and he admits he feels ‘guilty’.


Allison shares her disgust and anger at the government's shameful decision to recognise a state of Palestine, with Hamas calling it a ‘victory and one of the fruits of October seventh’. Having just returned from Israel with a very moving interview, Allison fears for the safety of the remaining hostages. 


Meanwhile Liam sees his worst fears confirmed as the UK becomes an ‘inflation outlier’ as the increasing ramifications of dealing with mass immigration is looking like it is leading to potentially ruinous fiscal costs.


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