Amy Elizabeth Fox | A Trauma-Informed Paradigm for Leadership, Coaching, and Consulting

Amy Elizabeth Fox | A Trauma-Informed Paradigm for Leadership, Coaching, and Consulting

Author: Thomas Huebl March 10, 2026 Duration: 32:32

This week, Thomas sits down with the CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, Amy Elizabeth Fox, for a conversation about bringing trauma-informed wisdom and embodied presence into leadership, organizations, coaching, and consulting work.

They discuss how traditional coaching and leadership development are inadequate for increasingly chaotic times, where unresolved personal and collective trauma create unhealthy environments that lack resilience.

Thomas and Amy offer tools and practices for down-regulating stress, creating psychological safety, and fostering a workplace rooted in deep connection and belonging—where creativity drives progress instead of fear.

They also discuss Amy’s new book co-authored with Nicholas Janni, Leading in Chaos, which you can learn about in more detail below.

✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:

👉 https://youtu.be/dwepmJHG_sg

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✨ Registration is open for “Foundations of Trauma-Informed Coaching & Consulting.”

This 8-week live online course, co-taught by Thomas Hübl and Amy Elizabeth Fox, is for coaches, consultants, group facilitators, and HR professionals who want to bring greater presence, depth, and trauma-informed awareness to their work with leaders and teams.

The course begins on April 26. Learn more & register here 👉https://traumainformedcertificateprogram.com

✨ Leading in Chaos: Available for Pre-Order

Amy Elizabeth Fox and Nicholas Janni, dear friends and students of Thomas, are publishing Leading in Chaos, arguing that what’s required in today's world is not better tools or frameworks, but “next practice” — a trauma-informed approach to leadership as an embodied, developmental practice.

Pre-order the book and read the sample chapter here 👉 https://leadinginchaosbook.com/

✨ Amy Elizabeth Fox is the Co-founder and the Chief Executive Officer of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global transformational leadership firm. For more than twenty years, she has advised senior leaders and organizations on leadership development, culture change, and organizational transformation. Amy regularly leads intensive multi-day leadership programs for senior executives and public sector leaders and is widely recognized for her work integrating trauma-informed development and psycho-spiritual principles into leadership education.

Connect with Amy here 👉 https://www.mobiusleadership.com

✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:

👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

✨ Connect with Thomas here:

Website: https://thomashuebl.com/

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Author: Language: English Episodes: 100

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