An Ethical Path to Awakening and Healing with Matthew Green

An Ethical Path to Awakening and Healing with Matthew Green

Author: Thomas Huebl February 17, 2026 Duration: 1:00:01

This week, Thomas sits down with one of our favorite frequent guests; journalist and co-host of the “What is Collective Healing?” podcast, Matthew Green, to explore the profound synergy between spiritual awakening, ethical living, and trauma healing, and how these pursuits converge on the journey of life.

They discuss how the "social mirror" of community helps us integrate spiritual insights, why it’s so important to meet pain with love, and why moral development requires us to get to the root causes of social issues instead of coming at problems from the top down.

It’s a fascinating conversation if you’re interested in what it looks like to integrate our personal and collective shadows, and what paths are available for us to move toward collective awakening and healing.


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✨ Matthew Green is a journalist and co-host of the “What Is Collective Healing?” podcast. He worked as a correspondent for the Financial Times and Reuters, and is the author of Aftershock, a book documenting the trauma healing journeys of British veterans. He serves as global investigations editor at DeSmog and is a graduate of Thomas Hubl’s Timeless Wisdom Training. He’s the creator of the Resonant World newsletter and the co-founder of the Resonant Man initiative.


Connect with Matthew here 👉 https://matthewgreenglobal.substack.com


✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:

👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com


Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.


✨ Connect with Thomas here:

Website: https://thomashuebl.com/

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In a world often defined by fragmentation, Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl explores the subtle connections that bind us. This isn't a series of abstract lectures; it's a living inquiry into how our personal awareness directly shapes the cultural and spiritual fabric we all share. Thomas, drawing from a deep well of integrative practice, guides dialogues that feel both timely and timeless. Each conversation with a guest-whether a scientist, artist, or community healer-unfolds like a collaborative exploration. You’ll hear them grapple with practical spirituality, the philosophy of interconnected systems, and the often-unseen patterns in society that call for our attention. The aim is to move beyond theory into a felt sense of relational intelligence. Listening to this podcast, you become part of a space where the divide between the mystical and the empirical softens, revealing actionable insights for personal and collective transformation. It’s for anyone curious about how inner work contributes to outer healing, and how our most pressing global challenges might be met not with more division, but with a renewed capacity for nuanced, compassionate understanding. The discussions are deep, sometimes challenging, but always oriented toward a more coherent and connected world.
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