Best Of: Healing in Relationships, with Thomas, Dr. Terry Real, Esther Perel & Dr. Shefali

Best Of: Healing in Relationships, with Thomas, Dr. Terry Real, Esther Perel & Dr. Shefali

Author: Thomas Huebl April 21, 2026 Duration: 52:07

This week, we’re sharing a compilation of some of our favorite segments from previous episodes on the incredible power and unique challenges of healing in relationships.

You’ll hear from Thomas and expert guests with backgrounds in couples therapy, trauma healing, and parenting, including: Couples therapist and bestselling author Dr. Terry Real, world-renowned therapist, author, and speaker Esther Perel, and psychologist, author, and conscious parenting expert Dr. Shefali.

Tune in for deep wisdom and powerful anecdotes on relational healing, attunement, how our connections to other people impact our healing journey, and what to do when our wounds come into play in our relationships.

01:41 - Dr. Terry Real on how our relationships help us transform trauma

10:28 - Thomas Hübl on creating attunement and safety with partners

18:18 - Esther Perel and Jack Saul on healing trauma through intimacy and vulnerability

33:44 - Thomas Hübl on the spirituality of communication

44:23 - Dr. Shefali on overcoming old patterns and sharing your deepest feelings

✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:

👉 https://youtu.be/HTAbviAeor8

Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET

Here are the links to watch or listen to the full episodes that these clips were taken from:

Segment 1 featuring Dr. Terry Real is from:

🎬 Healing Intergenerational Trauma Through Our Relationships

👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/terry-real-healing-intergenerational-trauma-through-our-relationships/

Segment 2 featuring Thomas is from:

🎬 How Healthy Relationships Create Collective Healing

👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/how-healthy-relationships-create-collective-healing/

Segment 3 featuring Esther Perel & Jack Saul is from:

🎬 Breaking Intergenerational Trauma

👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/breaking-intergenerational-trauma-with-esther-perel-and-jack-saul/

Segment 4 featuring Thomas is from:

🎬 Attunement: Connecting to the Flow of Life

👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/attunement-connecting-to-the-flow-of-life/

Segment 5 featuring Dr. Shefali is from:

🎬 Embracing Conscious Parenting

👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/dr-shefali-embracing-conscious-parenting/

✨ Registration is open for “Foundations of Trauma-Informed Coaching & Consulting.”

This 8-week live online course, co-taught by Thomas Hübl and Amy Elizabeth Fox, is for coaches, consultants, group facilitators, and HR professionals who want to bring greater presence, depth, and trauma-informed awareness to their work with leaders and teams.

The course begins on April 26. Learn more & register here 👉https://traumainformedcertificateprogram.com

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

✨ Connect with Thomas here:

Website: https://thomashuebl.com/

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Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl

YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl

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In a world often defined by fragmentation, Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl explores the subtle connections that bind us. This isn't a series of abstract lectures; it's a living inquiry into how our personal awareness directly shapes the cultural and spiritual fabric we all share. Thomas, drawing from a deep well of integrative practice, guides dialogues that feel both timely and timeless. Each conversation with a guest-whether a scientist, artist, or community healer-unfolds like a collaborative exploration. You’ll hear them grapple with practical spirituality, the philosophy of interconnected systems, and the often-unseen patterns in society that call for our attention. The aim is to move beyond theory into a felt sense of relational intelligence. Listening to this podcast, you become part of a space where the divide between the mystical and the empirical softens, revealing actionable insights for personal and collective transformation. It’s for anyone curious about how inner work contributes to outer healing, and how our most pressing global challenges might be met not with more division, but with a renewed capacity for nuanced, compassionate understanding. The discussions are deep, sometimes challenging, but always oriented toward a more coherent and connected world.
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