Iya Affo | Ancestral Healing and Indigenous Wisdom

Iya Affo | Ancestral Healing and Indigenous Wisdom

Author: Thomas Huebl November 4, 2025 Duration: 1:06:48

Trauma may be passed down through generations, but so are healing, benevolence, and spiritual guidance.

This week, Thomas sits down with Iya Affo, an international speaker and the founder of Heal Historical Trauma, to discuss ancestral trauma and wisdom, Indigenous healing traditions, and collective resilience.

Iya shares her personal journey of healing and connecting with her cultural identity, sharing how community practices and communal rituals are essential for individual and collective healing.

She and Thomas explore how historical and ancestral trauma infiltrate modern life, and share hopeful wisdom on our ability to heal those wounds and transmit healing and regulation into the future. They discuss the tension and harmony between Western practices and Indigenous medicine, the difference between becoming an “elder” and simply growing older, and how genuine wellness and spiritual growth require acknowledging our fundamental interconnectedness.

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✨ Iya Affo is an international lecturer and historical trauma specialist. She serves as a member of Arizona State University’s Disparities in the Justice System Advisory Board and authored the trauma-informed curriculum for educators in Arizona and Native American schools. She’s an adjunct faculty member at the Trauma Institute International and founder of Heal Historical Trauma Culture & Wellness Academy.


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Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.


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