Unifying Science and Spirituality

Unifying Science and Spirituality

Author: Thomas Huebl September 2, 2025 Duration: 19:52

Can we create more richness and harmony in our lives by synthesizing scientific and spiritual ways of knowing?

This week, Thomas shares his thoughts on this question and explains how bridging this divide into a unified understanding of reality might be the key to unlocking the full spectrum of human experience and intelligence.


Tune in to explore how trauma creates a false sense of separation between these two worlds, and learn how practicing presence and attuning with the wholeness of the information field can create greater intimacy with life and open us to profound revelations and paradigm-shifting innovations.


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Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. 

In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.


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In a world often defined by fragmentation, Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl explores the subtle connections that bind us. This isn't a series of abstract lectures; it's a living inquiry into how our personal awareness directly shapes the cultural and spiritual fabric we all share. Thomas, drawing from a deep well of integrative practice, guides dialogues that feel both timely and timeless. Each conversation with a guest-whether a scientist, artist, or community healer-unfolds like a collaborative exploration. You’ll hear them grapple with practical spirituality, the philosophy of interconnected systems, and the often-unseen patterns in society that call for our attention. The aim is to move beyond theory into a felt sense of relational intelligence. Listening to this podcast, you become part of a space where the divide between the mystical and the empirical softens, revealing actionable insights for personal and collective transformation. It’s for anyone curious about how inner work contributes to outer healing, and how our most pressing global challenges might be met not with more division, but with a renewed capacity for nuanced, compassionate understanding. The discussions are deep, sometimes challenging, but always oriented toward a more coherent and connected world.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 189

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl
Podcast Episodes
Pádraig Ó Tuama | Healing Spiritual Trauma [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 58:51
Can creative expression help us return to ourselves after we’ve experienced spiritual trauma?This week, Thomas sits down with Pádraig Ó Tuama, a distinguished Irish Poet, theologian, and host of the podcast Poetry Unboun…
Rae Riedel | Harnessing the Power of Your Breath [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:00:51
Can you change your consciousness by changing the way that you breathe?This week, Thomas is joined by Rae Riedel, the co-founder, primary educator, and facilitator trainer of Integrative Breath. She’s also a senior stude…
Embracing the Unknown on the Spiritual Path [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 26:16
The beauty of the spiritual path lies in not having a fixed destination.This week, Thomas Hübl shares a teaching that opens us to a different mode of knowing—one that is emergent, direct, and arises from surrendering to…
Esther Perel & Jack Saul | Relational Healing to Transform Trauma [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:15:47
This week, we’re revisiting Thomas’ conversation with Esther Perel, a renowned psychotherapist, NYT bestselling author, and host of the podcast “Where Should We Begin?” They’re also joined by her husband, Jack Saul, an a…
Bonus Preview: Pico Iyer at the 2025 Collective Trauma Summit [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 9:37
Today, we’re sharing an excerpt from Thomas’ conversation with acclaimed travel writer, author, and speaker Pico Iyer at the upcoming Collective Trauma Summit. Pico’s extensive travels and journeys into the realms of Bud…
Susanne Ahlendorf and Martin Bruders | Trauma-Informed Meditation [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 55:34
A deep meditation practice doesn’t help you bypass your problems; it helps you move through them with presence and embodied awareness.This week, Thomas is joined by his dear friends, longtime students, and meditation ins…
Francis Weller | Embracing the Wisdom of Grief [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 32:19
How does crossing the threshold of grief open the gateway to other potent emotions?In part two of their conversation on grief, healing, and social transformation, Thomas and Francis Weller discuss what it means to become…
Bonus Preview: Cheryl Strayed at the Collective Trauma Summit [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 9:53
Bestselling author Cheryl Strayed believes that writing your truth can set you free.Today we’re sharing an excerpt from her conversation with Thomas at the upcoming Collective Trauma Summit. In it, she shares about a pro…
Francis Weller | Grief Rituals and Soul Hygiene [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 42:27
What if opening yourself to grief could actually help you feel more alive?This week, Thomas sits down with psychotherapist, writer, and soul activist Francis Weller for a powerful conversation about befriending grief, em…
Dr. Terry Real | Daring to Embrace Intimacy in a Fractured World [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 56:05
Have you ever pulled away from someone you love—not because you didn’t care, but because closeness felt too painful?This week, Thomas is joined by renowned couples therapy expert Dr. Terry Real for a conversation on how…