Zander Grashow | Adapative Leadership for the Future

Zander Grashow | Adapative Leadership for the Future

Author: Thomas Huebl February 18, 2025 Duration: 51:01

Thomas is joined by author, artist, and founder and CEO of Adaptive Leadership, Zander Grashow, for a conversation on the type of leadership that’s needed as humanity faces an unprecedented acceleration of social and technological change. 

In order for us to meet this moment, we need to dismantle broken and corrupted systems, develop new social and relational skills, and collectively re-imagine the future that we want to work towards. This requires us to stay engaged despite the difficulty, and find our passion instead of leaning into despair.


Zander offers his take on the most important elements of leading our societies into that better future—learning to feel into our bodies and our emotions, identifying what we must let go of, understanding the structures of power, creating safe spaces to digest events, and building more resilient social fabrics in community.


 


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A recognized authority on Adaptive Leadership and change, Zander Grashow has been a confidential advisor to presidents, activists and change agents in their most critical moments of transition. Zander is a renowned facilitator, speaker and advisor to leaders around the world, with a broad reach into the activist, global business, philanthropic, entrepreneurial and creative communities. He believes every person should have the ability to evolve their life and work.


✨ Connect with Zander here:


👉 https://www.adaptandlead.com


 


Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. 


In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.


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In a world often defined by fragmentation, Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl explores the subtle connections that bind us. This isn't a series of abstract lectures; it's a living inquiry into how our personal awareness directly shapes the cultural and spiritual fabric we all share. Thomas, drawing from a deep well of integrative practice, guides dialogues that feel both timely and timeless. Each conversation with a guest-whether a scientist, artist, or community healer-unfolds like a collaborative exploration. You’ll hear them grapple with practical spirituality, the philosophy of interconnected systems, and the often-unseen patterns in society that call for our attention. The aim is to move beyond theory into a felt sense of relational intelligence. Listening to this podcast, you become part of a space where the divide between the mystical and the empirical softens, revealing actionable insights for personal and collective transformation. It’s for anyone curious about how inner work contributes to outer healing, and how our most pressing global challenges might be met not with more division, but with a renewed capacity for nuanced, compassionate understanding. The discussions are deep, sometimes challenging, but always oriented toward a more coherent and connected world.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 189

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl
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