China, Russia and us: Tony Radakin on four years as Chief of the Defence Staff

China, Russia and us: Tony Radakin on four years as Chief of the Defence Staff

Author: BBC Radio 4 September 5, 2025 Duration: 49:53

An exclusive exit interview with Admiral Sir Tony Radakin on the week he steps down as the UK's military chief.

Radakin's time as head of the armed forces was dominated by responding to Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

As he leaves, he is adamant that the UK is "safe" and that the war has been a "disaster" for Putin.

He also talks about the recent show of military strength in China and what it was like serving four UK prime ministers.

Producer: Daniel Kraemer Researcher: Lauren Tavriger Studio Manager: Gareth Jones Editor: Giles Edwarnds


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