Why the PM has to go: Miatta Fahnbulleh on being the first minister to break with Starmer

Why the PM has to go: Miatta Fahnbulleh on being the first minister to break with Starmer

Author: BBC Radio 4 May 15, 2026 Duration: 49:19

The former Communities Minister Miatta Fahnbulleh, who was the first Minister to resign from Keir Starmer's government after the elections, discusses reaching breaking point, who should lead Labour now, and why she's terrified of where politics is going.

She also talks about her experience as a civil servant working with Conservative Ministers, and why her children are her toughest critics.

Senior Producer: Hannah Wilkinson Producer: Flora Murray Sound: Jack Wilfan Editor: Giles Edwards


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