AI, Hip-Hop, and the Digital Uncanny – A Talk with Paul Miller, aka “DJ Spooky”

AI, Hip-Hop, and the Digital Uncanny – A Talk with Paul Miller, aka “DJ Spooky”

Author: Matthew J. Dillon, Center for the Study of World Religions September 21, 2025 Duration: 1:23:13
For Episode 16 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome composer, artist, and media theorist Paul Miller. Miller is best known for his music as DJ Spooky, the avant-garde turntableist who has collaborated with artists ranging from Chuck D to Yoko Ono. He has also re-scored classic films, such as The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, and his art has been showcased in exhibitions at the Whitney Museum of American Art. In this wide-ranging conversation, we asked Paul to explore the eeriness of life in the digital age. We touch on the perils and possibilities of artificial intelligence, the role of the DJ, Japanese Butoh as a response to nuclear tragedy, D.W. Griffith’s The Birth of a Nation, and how science fiction, Einstein, and Sun Ra have shaped Miller’s work.

Hosted by Matthew J. Dillon from the Center for the Study of World Religions, Pop Apocalypse digs into the strange and often hidden spiritual undercurrents flowing through the music, art, and stories that shape our everyday world. This isn't a dry academic lecture; it's a series of conversations that feel more like explorations, where the focus is on the lived, experiential side of creativity. Each episode brings you interviews with musicians, writers, and other artists who discuss how gnostic ideas, esoteric symbols, or direct mystical encounters inform and transform what they make. You'll hear them talk about the process behind the work-where inspiration comes from, how it feels to channel something intangible, and what it means to embed deeper mysteries into popular forms. The aim is to pull back the curtain on those moments of profound meaning we sometimes sense in a song lyric, a film scene, or a novel, but can't quite articulate. With a distinctive sonic backdrop provided by the band Secret Chiefs 3, the atmosphere of the podcast itself becomes part of the journey, blending analysis with a certain resonant mood. Tuning into this podcast offers a chance to reconsider your favorite pieces of culture through a different, more contemplative lens, discovering the sacred threads woven into the fabric of the modern soundscape and story.
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