From Rock Star to Occult Historian - A Talk with Gary Lachman

From Rock Star to Occult Historian - A Talk with Gary Lachman

Author: Matthew J. Dillon, Center for the Study of World Religions January 23, 2026 Duration: 1:27:56
In Pop Apocalypse, Ep. 19, we welcome author and musician, Gary Lachman, to the show. Lachman was the original bassist for the seminal new wave band, Blondie. He later became an intellectual historian; to date, Lachman has published twenty-six books, most recently a memoir, Touched by the Presence: From Blondie’s Bowery and Rock and Roll to Magic and the Occult (Inner Traditions, 2025). In this wide-ranging chat, we discuss how Lachman’s reading of comics and Lovecraft inspired a lifelong interest in the occult, his early days in Blondie, and how he came to Crowleyan magick. Then we turn to Lachman’s time practicing “The Work” of Gurdjieff, his relationship with the author Colin Wilson, and how keeping a dream journal can change our view of the nature of time.

Hosted by Matthew J. Dillon from the Center for the Study of World Religions, Pop Apocalypse digs into the strange and often hidden spiritual undercurrents flowing through the music, art, and stories that shape our everyday world. This isn't a dry academic lecture; it's a series of conversations that feel more like explorations, where the focus is on the lived, experiential side of creativity. Each episode brings you interviews with musicians, writers, and other artists who discuss how gnostic ideas, esoteric symbols, or direct mystical encounters inform and transform what they make. You'll hear them talk about the process behind the work-where inspiration comes from, how it feels to channel something intangible, and what it means to embed deeper mysteries into popular forms. The aim is to pull back the curtain on those moments of profound meaning we sometimes sense in a song lyric, a film scene, or a novel, but can't quite articulate. With a distinctive sonic backdrop provided by the band Secret Chiefs 3, the atmosphere of the podcast itself becomes part of the journey, blending analysis with a certain resonant mood. Tuning into this podcast offers a chance to reconsider your favorite pieces of culture through a different, more contemplative lens, discovering the sacred threads woven into the fabric of the modern soundscape and story.
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