Jacqueline Carey on 25 Years of Kushiel's Dart

Jacqueline Carey on 25 Years of Kushiel's Dart

Author: Under the Covers Book Blog June 26, 2026 Duration: 23:54

Twenty-five years ago, Jacqueline Carey published Kushiel's Dart and changed what epic fantasy could do. To mark the anniversary, I sat down with her to talk about how she built the world of Terre d'Ange, why she wrote a heroine who is both a feminist icon and a divinely ordained masochist, and what she wants you to do when the first hundred pages feel like a lot. This conversation also kicks off our year-long Kushiel's Legacy readalong, so whether you have always wanted to read these books or you want to reread them with company, this is your starting point.

In this episode of Reading Under the Covers, a romance novel podcast:

  • The coffee-table-book accident that handed Carey an entire theology
  • Writing consent as a sacred tenet, and why she chose first person
  • Turning the trauma-forged fantasy heroine on its head
  • Why she threw out the rulebook on her own prose
  • Melisande, and the villain you are not supposed to root for
  • Joscelin, Cassiel's Servant, and an easier way into the series
  • Her advice for readers intimidated by the size
  • "Love as thou wilt," and what 25 years of readers have meant to her

Timestamps:

00:00 Podcast Welcome

00:48 25 Years Of Kushiel

01:42 Big Idea Origins

03:14 Writing Phedre Over Time

04:08 Feminism Consent Voice

05:03 Getting Into The World

05:42 Joscelin Retelling Entry

06:35 Building Terre Theology

08:36 Finding The Baroque Voice

10:34 Turning Tropes Inside Out

11:52 Crafting The Cast

12:46 Why Readers Love Melisande

13:35 Parallel Character Arcs

15:35 Returning To Joscelin

17:54 New Insights From Servant

19:10 Read Along Tips Themes

20:15 Love As Thou Wilt

21:00 Legacy And Reader Impact

23:01 Wrap Up And Read Along

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Heads up: the books, and parts of this conversation, touch on mature themes, including BDSM and the role of pain and consent in Carey's world.

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