Hope in Messy Mourning:  Jackie Baker's Journey After Her Son's Suicide

Hope in Messy Mourning: Jackie Baker's Journey After Her Son's Suicide

Author: Jedlie Circus Productions, Inc August 28, 2026 Duration: 58:07

In this powerful episode, Jed Doherty welcomes Jackie Baker, author of Messy Mourning: Hope for Mothers Grieving the Loss of a Child to Suicide. Jackie shares the heartbreaking story of her firstborn, Sebastian—a bright, curious, book-loving boy who grew up in a home where reading, faith, and family were central. She recalls sweet memories, from anatomy books at home to anxiously awaiting new Harry Potter releases, painting a vivid picture of a joyful, inquisitive child.

As Sebastian entered high school, Jackie and her family began to notice serious changes: depression, anxiety, poor choices, and eventually substance use. Despite treatment, psychiatric care, and rehab, Sebastian struggled with bipolar disorder, experiencing manic and depressive phases. After an earlier attempt, he ultimately died by suicide, leaving Jackie, her husband, and daughter to navigate overwhelming grief, guilt, and unanswered questions.

Jackie and Jed discuss the unique stigma surrounding suicide loss, especially in faith communities, contrasting it with how people respond to deaths from accidents or illness. Jackie speaks honestly about unhelpful comments, lingering shame, and the harmful notion that suicide is simply "selfish," reframing it instead as the tragic end of profound suffering and illness—much like an advanced cancer.

Jackie explains how her Christian faith, scripture, and a loving church community became her anchor, and she offers practical ways to support grieving families: specific help instead of "let me know," showing up, avoiding platitudes, and being willing to listen and remember the child.

Later in the episode, Jed talks with Paul Curley, author of Camp Counseling Mastery, who shares how playful, intentional camp activities can build children's language, confidence, and social skills, especially through movement, fun, and "accidental learning."


There’s a special kind of magic that happens when families share stories, try a new recipe, or simply talk about a movie they just watched together. The Reading With Your Kids Podcast, from Jedlie Circus Productions, Inc, explores that magic in every episode. While the title highlights reading, the conversations here go far beyond the pages of a book. This podcast is really about connection-the kind built through everyday moments, whether you’re cooking, creating, or discovering a new song together. Each episode brings you authentic conversations with authors, educators, and families who share practical ideas and personal stories. You’ll hear about great children’s books, sure, but also about how shared experiences with TV, movies, and music can spark meaningful family discussions. The underlying goal is always to strengthen those essential bonds. Tuning in feels like getting thoughtful, friendly advice on turning daily routines into opportunities for laughter and learning. It’s a supportive space for any parent or caregiver looking to enrich their family life, one shared story or silly kitchen experiment at a time. The tone is warm, inclusive, and focused on the simple, powerful truth that time spent together is the foundation of a strong relationship.
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