“Kutless: Unshaken” - The Hearts of the Innocent Era

“Kutless: Unshaken” - The Hearts of the Innocent Era

Author: Rock in a Hard Place April 10, 2023 Duration: 1:17:44

On this episode of Rock in a Hard Place, James and Jon Micah talk about AI and try to figure out if it’s going to take over the world! From how it’s affecting students in schools, to the impact AI is having on art and music. Chat GPT writes an action movie plot about the band fighting off an international group of terrorists, called ‘Kutless: Unshaken.’ Other prompts include, ‘The Unfunny King’ and a story about Tom Brady coming out of retirement from the NFL again to drive Formula 1 for team Red Bull. Jon Micah and James remember the Hearts of the Innocent era and making the music video for their song ‘Shut Me Out’ with a full Hollywood crew, on location at an abandoned warehouse in Los Angeles, and share some BTS stories. The story behind the song "Smile". Going on the Hearts of the Innocent Tour, sponsored by Suzuki. How do you talk to people that don’t believe the same as you? Why does the Church get wrapped up in “do’s and don’t s,” or being “right,” but misses people entirely? How do we create durability in discipleship? Jon Micah talks about the challenge in his life to be more relational, more loving, and more focused on the individual. James talks about how to have more compassion and empathy for the world around you.


For two decades, the members of Kutless have been a fixture in music, navigating the unique pressures of life on stage and the personal faith that grounds them. Rock in a Hard Place (A Kutless Podcast) is where founding members James and Jon Micah pull back the curtain on that entire journey. This isn't a polished retrospective; it's an ongoing conversation filled with the unvarnished realities of touring, creating, and growing up within a public ministry. You'll hear the kind of stories that only happen after twenty shared years in a van-absurd, laugh-out-loud moments from forgotten towns and cramped venues that perfectly balance more vulnerable reflections. The podcast delves into personal struggles and the complex challenges of existing at the intersection of art, commerce, and Christian culture, topics they approach with a hard-won perspective. Each episode feels like a candid talk between old friends who have seen it all, offering listeners a genuine connection that is as thought-provoking as it is entertaining. Tune in for a rare, behind-the-scenes listen that goes far beyond the music.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 17

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