Exploring AI Network Protocols; Vulnerability Truths and Guarantees; and the News - O'Shea Bowens, Jeremiah Grossman - ESW #469

Segment 1 - Interview with O'Shea Bowens

What do we really know about "AI Network Protocols"? Network security is about to get popular all over again.

Generative AI caused a disruptive explosion across all of tech and every company's roadmap. The move from chatbots to AI agents doubled down on that disruption. Now agents need to talk to each other?

Boom: we have MCP. A2A. Universal Commerce Protocol. General purpose and specialized protocols for agent communication. What does this look like from the network perspective, though? O'Shea Bowen joins us to answer this question, and he thinks the results are interesting enough to spark a resurgence of interest in network security tooling.

Segment Resources:

1. https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/75/documents/Cybersecurity/CSIMCPSECURITY.pdf?ver=bmgiSbNQLP6Z_GiWtRt6bg%3D%3D
2. https://labs.cloudsecurityalliance.org/research/csa-research-note-mcp-security-crisis-20260504-csa-styled/
3. https://cyberone.security/blog/building-an-ai-security-strategy-without-stalling-business-growth

Segment 2 - Interview with Jeremiah Grossman

Jeremiah Grossman on why we've been measuring cyber risk wrong for 20 years

After decades helping shape modern web security, and building companies that were ultimately acquired by Synopsys and Tenable, Jeremiah Grossman believes cybersecurity has arrived at an inflection point. His argument is a provocative one: for years, the industry has optimized around the wrong metrics. His latest venture, Root Evidence, aims to help security teams identify which risks are most likely to cause meaningful business loss, and he has the evidence - real-world breach data, cyber insurance claims, digital forensics intelligence, attack surface intelligence, and observed attacker behavior - to back it up.

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Segment 3 - Weekly Enterprise News

Finally, in the enterprise security news,

1. We vibe check the AI model situation
2. hidden devices in California cars causes concerns
3. OpenAI's models escape sandboxes and breaches another AI company, totally by accident, they promise!
4. Grok Build uploads all your files, totally by accident, they promise!
5. Eclipsium debuts a firmware version of patch tuesday!
6. HTTP gets a new method
7. common problems with incident response
8. Which one of the security weekly hosts would consider switching to a "dumb phone"?

All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly.

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-469