How do we teach students to sit with evidence longer?

How do we teach students to sit with evidence longer?

Author: Jeff Utecht & Tricia Friedman July 27, 2026 Duration: 23:48

What happens when historical research uncovers a truth you are not sure you want to know?

In this episode of Shifting Schools, Tricia speaks with author Christine Kuehn and her husband and research partner, Mark Schiponi, about Family of Spies: A World War II Story of Nazi Espionage, Betrayal, and the Secret History Behind Pearl Harbor.

Christine's investigation began with a startling discovery: members of her family had been deeply involved with the Nazi Party, and her grandfather had been convicted for his role connected to the attack on Pearl Harbor. What followed was a 30-year search through family testimony, declassified FBI files, National Archives records, historical accounts, photographs, and long-buried memories.

Christine and Mark describe the emotional strain of researching a painful family history and the many times the project was packed away because the discoveries became too difficult to face. They also explain how they compared official records with family stories, handled contradictions, organized years of handwritten notes, and decided what evidence could be trusted.

The conversation also examines the craft of making history readable. Christine and Mark wanted the book to reach people who might never choose a conventional work of World War II history. They discuss weaving the past together with Christine's present-day investigation, writing nonfiction with the momentum of a novel, and removing compelling material when it no longer served the larger story.

For educators, the episode offers a useful exploration of historical inquiry, source evaluation, inherited narratives, memory, and the role storytelling plays in keeping difficult history visible. It raises questions that belong in history, humanities, media-literacy, and ELA classrooms:

How do we respond when evidence challenges the stories we have inherited?

What responsibilities come with uncovering painful history?

How can writers make complex historical research accessible without weakening its accuracy?

What can students learn by comparing personal testimony, archival documents, photographs, government records, and published histories?

Christine also reflects on secrecy, shame, and the realization that people are not responsible for their ancestors' actions. They can, however, decide how honestly they will confront that history and what choices they will make in their own lives.

In this episode:

• The emotional cost of investigating a family's Nazi past
• Using declassified FBI files and National Archives records
• Comparing family memories with documentary evidence
• Turning 30 years of research into a coherent narrative
• Writing history for readers who do not consider themselves historians
• Confronting inherited shame and family secrecy
• Deciding what to remove when it no longer serves the story
• Teaching difficult history through human stories
• Responding to historical denial and misinformation

Timestamps:

00:00 The emotional and practical challenges of the research
03:49 Organizing decades of evidence and handwritten notes
07:20 Why confronting painful truths can matter
11:36 Sharing a private family history with the public
15:15 Historical storytelling and what comes next
18:55 Creating the book's past-and-present structure
21:48 Knowing when a powerful passage must be removed

About the book:

Family of Spies by Christine Kuehn combines memoir, archival investigation, World War II history, Nazi espionage, and the secret history surrounding Pearl Harbor. The book follows Christine's effort to understand her family's involvement and the effects that secrecy had on later generations.

Content note: This conversation discusses Nazism, antisemitism, the Holocaust, Pearl Harbor, family trauma, and inherited shame.

Resources mentioned:

Family of Spies by Christine Kuehn
Christine Kuehn's Politics and Prose conversation
The United States National Archives
Declassified FBI records and Freedom of Information Act research

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