Why Interdisciplinary Learning Fuels Creativity: A Conversation with Alan Gratz

Why Interdisciplinary Learning Fuels Creativity: A Conversation with Alan Gratz

Author: Jeff Utecht & Tricia Friedman December 8, 2025 Duration: 21:23

In this episode of Shifting Schools, bestselling author Alan Gratz joins Tricia Friedman to explore the craft of storytelling, the role of creativity in education, and why curiosity is the engine behind both great writing and great learning. Gratz shares how baseball has quietly shaped the structure of many of his novels, how he approaches character development with authenticity, and why understanding a character's background is essential for emotional truth.

The conversation also digs into the need for interdisciplinary learning in today's classrooms and the value of teacher collaboration. Gratz argues that creativity isn't a mysterious talent—it's a skill that can be nurtured, practiced, and strengthened when schools design learning experiences that cross traditional subject boundaries.

Whether you're an educator, writer, or lifelong learner, this episode offers fresh insights into how storytelling helps us understand the human experience and how curiosity fuels both art and education.

🔑 Key Takeaways

  • Alan Gratz's novel has stayed on the bestseller list for five years, a longevity he describes as "never taken for granted."

  • He uses baseball as a metaphorical framework when structuring narratives.

  • Creativity is a teachable practice—not an innate gift.

  • Interdisciplinary learning increases student engagement and deepens understanding.

  • Strong character development depends on knowing a character's background, motivations, and contradictions.

  • Reading diverse perspectives cultivates empathy, curiosity, and creative thinking.

  • Gratz encourages exploring multiple creative pathways in writing and education.

  • Schools benefit when teachers collaborate across disciplines to build rich learning experiences.

🕒 Chapters

00:00 – The Legacy of a Best-Selling Author
02:57 – Baseball as a Creative Influence
05:43 – The Teachability of Creativity
08:46 – Interdisciplinary Learning in Education
11:37 – Character Development and Authenticity
14:20 – Curiosity and the Human Condition

 

ALAN GRATZ is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of several highly acclaimed books for young readers, including Heroes: A Novel of Pearl Harbor, Two Degrees, Ground Zero, Allies, Grenade, Refugee, Projekt 1065, Prisoner B-3087, Code of Honor, and Captain America: The Ghost Army, an original graphic novel. Alan lives with his family in the Pacific Northwest. Look for him online at alangratz.com

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