Ship It Conversations: From Full-Stack to Cloud/DevOps, One Project at a Time (with Eric Paatey)

Ship It Conversations: From Full-Stack to Cloud/DevOps, One Project at a Time (with Eric Paatey)

Author: Teller's Tech - DevOps, SRE and Cloud Podcast December 30, 2025 Duration: 23:25

This is a guest conversation episode of Ship It Weekly (separate from the weekly news recaps).

I sat down with Eric Paatey, a Cloud & DevOps Engineer who’s been transitioning from full-stack web development into cloud/devops, and building real skills through hands-on projects instead of just collecting tools and buzzwords.

We talk about what that transition actually feels like, what’s helped most, and why you don’t need a rack of servers to learn DevOps.

What we covered Eric’s path into DevOps How he moved from building web apps to caring about pipelines, infra, scalability, reliability, and automation. The “oh… code is only part of the job” moment that pushes a lot of people toward DevOps.

The WHY behind DevOps Eric’s take: DevOps is mainly about breaking down silos and improving communication between dev, ops, security, and the business. We also hit the idea from The DevOps Handbook: small batches win. The bigger the release, the harder it is to recover when something breaks.

Leveling up without drowning in tools DevOps has an endless tool list, so we talked about how to stay current without burning out. Eric’s recommendation: stay connected to the industry. Meet people, join user groups, go to events, and don’t silo yourself.

The homelab mindset (and why simple is fine) Eric shared his “homelab on the go” setup and why the hardware isn’t the point. It’s about using a safe environment to build habits: automation, debugging, systems thinking, monitoring, breaking things, recovering, and improving the design.

A practical first project for aspiring DevOps engineers We talked through a starter project you can actually show in interviews: Dockerize a simple app, deploy it behind an ALB, and learn basic networking/security along the way. You don’t need to understand everything on day one, but you do need to build things and learn what breaks.

Agentic AI and guardrails We also touched on AI agents and MCPs, what they could mean for ops teams, and why you should not give agents full access to anything. Least privilege and policy guardrails matter, because “non-deterministic” and “prod permissions” is a scary combo.

Links and resources Eric Paatey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-paatey-72a87799/

Eric’s website/portfolio: https://ericpaatey.com/

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For anyone building or running modern systems, the sheer volume of news, tools, and incident reports can be overwhelming. Ship It Weekly cuts through that noise. This isn't a surface-level scan of headlines. Host Brian Teller digs into the latest significant outages, major software releases, and insightful post-mortems, focusing squarely on the practical implications for DevOps, SRE, and platform engineering work. Each episode of the podcast breaks down a couple of key stories, providing the crucial context often missing from tech news. You'll hear analysis that translates events into actionable insights, answering the "so what?" for your own infrastructure and processes. The show also includes a quick rundown of tools or updates actually worth your attention, saving you hours of browsing. The tone is direct and informed, favoring depth over breadth. It’s designed for engineers and technical leaders who need a concise, reliable filter for the week's most relevant developments. Listen to this podcast for a focused recap that prioritizes what actually matters, delivered without fluff. You get the news, plus the necessary interpretation to understand how it might affect your systems, your team, and your on-call rotation. It's a weekly briefing that respects your time while aiming to make you more effective.
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