Reflecting on the Pandemic: What We Learned and What We Didn’t with Joe Nocera

Reflecting on the Pandemic: What We Learned and What We Didn’t with Joe Nocera

Author: Smart People Industries November 21, 2023 Duration: 52:57
Why and how did America, in a catastrophically enormous failure, become the world leader in COVID deaths? In this Episode, veteran journalist Joe Nocera offers fresh and provocative answers. We discuss what really happened when governments ran out of PPE due to snarled supply chains and the shock to the financial system when the world's biggest economy stumbled. We also cover the effectiveness of wildly polarized approaches, with governors Andrew Cuomo of New York and Ron DeSantis of Florida taking infamous turns in the spotlight. And we uncover why thousands died in hollowed-out hospital systems and nursing homes run by private equity firms to “maximize shareholder value.” Joe's book, The Big Fail: What the Pandemic Revealed About Who America Protects and Who It Leaves Behind, is available now. To learn more about Joe, follow him on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/joenocera. Support the Show - Become a Patron! Help us grow and become a Patron today: https://www.patreon.com/smartpeoplepodcast Sponsors: Notion - Try Notion AI for free when you go to Notion.com/smart! DraftKings - Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app NOW and use code SMART -- new customers can bet $5 on the NFL Thanksgiving action to score $150 instantly in bonus bets! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Every other week, Chris Stemp and Jon Rojas sit down with a guest who has fundamentally shaped their field, driven not by a rigid agenda but by genuine curiosity. The Smart People Podcast from Smart People Industries is built on the idea that the most compelling insights emerge from relaxed, authentic dialogue. You’ll hear authors, innovators, and cultural leaders-each with significant recognition in areas like business, education, or society-speak in a way that often feels more like a fascinating dinner conversation than a formal interview. Chris’s thoughtful questioning, paired with Jon’s producer perspective, gently guides discussions into unexpected territories, revealing the personal journeys and nuanced ideas behind public achievements. This podcast thrives in the space between expertise and accessibility, making complex topics relatable without sacrificing depth. It’s for anyone who believes that learning is a continuous, engaging process, and that the best lessons come from listening to people who think differently. Tune in biweekly for conversations that are as intellectually substantial as they are genuinely enjoyable, reminding us that smart discourse can be both enlightening and warmly human.
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