SE Radio 685: Will Wilson on Deterministic Simulation Testing

SE Radio 685: Will Wilson on Deterministic Simulation Testing

Author: SE-Radio Team September 10, 2025 Duration: 1:01:14
In this episode, Will Wilson, CEO and co-founder of Antithesis, explores Deterministic Simulation Testing (DST) with host Sriram Panyam. Wilson was part of the pioneering team at FoundationDB that developed this revolutionary testing approach, which was later acquired by Apple in 2015. After seeing that even sophisticated organizations lacked robust testing for distributed systems, Wilson co-founded Antithesis in 2018 to make DST commercially available. Deterministic simulation testing runs software in a fully controlled, simulated environment in which all sources of non-determinism are eliminated or controlled. Unlike traditional testing or chaos engineering, DST operates in a separate environment from production, allowing for aggressive fault injection without risk to live systems. The key breakthrough is perfect reproducibility -- any bug found can be recreated exactly using the same random seed. Antithesis built "The Determinator," a custom deterministic hypervisor that simulates entire software stacks including virtual hardware, networking, and time. The system can compress years of stress testing into shorter timeframes by running simulations faster than wall-clock time. All external interfaces that could introduce non-determinism (network calls, disk I/O, system time) are mocked or controlled by the simulator. The approach has proven effective with major organizations including MongoDB, Palantir, and Ethereum. For Ethereum's critical "Merge" upgrade in 2022, Antithesis found and helped fix several serious bugs that could have been catastrophic for the live network. The platform typically finds bugs that traditional testing methods miss entirely -- such as those arising from rare race conditions, complex timing issues, and unexpected system interactions. This episode is sponsored by Monday Dev

For developers who think deeply about their craft, Software Engineering Radio-The Podcast for Professional Software Developers offers a steady, thoughtful conversation about building software. This isn't about chasing headlines or quick tips; it's a deliberate exploration of the principles, patterns, and hard-won insights that define lasting work in the field. The SE-Radio Team creates each episode as original, standalone content, ensuring you get focused depth rather than recycled conference talks. Every ten days, a new installment arrives, alternating between detailed tutorial-style deep dives on specific technologies or methodologies and candid interviews with influential voices and practitioners from across the industry. Tuning in means joining a continuous learning journey where complex topics are broken down with clarity, from system architecture and language design to team dynamics and career development. This podcast serves as a reliable educational archive, a resource you can return to as your experience grows, always anchored in the realities and challenges faced by professional developers every day.
Author: Language: en-us Episodes: 100

Software Engineering Radio - The Podcast for Professional Software Developers
Podcast Episodes
SE Radio 656: Ivett Ördög on Rewrite versus Refactor [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 49:43
Ivett Ördög speaks with host Sam Taggart about rewrite versus refactor -- a choice that many projects face as they grow. It's a topic that inspires a lot of dogmatic feelings. They discuss how companies and projects end…
SE Radio 654: Chris Patterson on MassTransit and Event-Driven Systems [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:09:06
Chris Patterson, founder and principal architect of MassTransit, joins host Jeff Doolittle to discuss MassTransit, a message bus framework for building distributed systems. The conversation begins with an exploration of…
SE Radio 653: Asanka Abeysinghe on Cell-Based Architecture [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:00:06
Asanka Abeysinghe, CTO at WSO2, joins host Giovanni Asproni to discuss cell-based architecture -- a style that's intended to combine application, deployment, and team architecture to help organizations respond quickly to…
SE Radio 652: Christian Mesh on OpenTofu [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 51:50
Christian Mesh, tech lead of the OpenTofu project, speaks with host Robert Blumen about OpenTofu. They start with the history of terraform, terraform providers, license changes to open source projects, the origin of Open…
SE Radio 651: Paul Frazee on Bluesky and the AT Protocol [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:08:24
Paul Frazee, CTO of Bluesky, speaks with SE Radio's Jeremy Jung about the Authenticated Transfer Protocol (ATProto) used by the Bluesky decentralized social network. They discuss why ATProto was created, as well as how i…
SE Radio 649: Lukas Gentele on Kubernetes vClusters [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 58:14
Lukas Gentele, CEO of Loft Labs, joins host Robert Blumen for a discussion of kubernetes vclusters (virtual clusters). A vcluster is a kubernetes cluster that runs kubernetes application on a host kubernetes cluster. The…
SE Radio 648: Matthew Adams on AI Threat Modeling and Stride GPT [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 46:56
Matthew Adams, Head of Security Enablement at Citi, joins SE Radio host Priyanka Raghavan to explore the use of large language models in threat modeling, with a special focus on Matthew's work, Stride GPT. The episode ki…
SE Radio 647: Praveen Gujar on Gen AI for Digital Ad Tech Platforms [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 52:01
Praveen Gujar, Director of Product at LinkedIn, joins SE Radio host Kanchan Shringi for a discussion on how generative AI (GenAI) is transforming digital advertising technology platforms. The conversation starts with a l…