Belonging & Collective Action: Viet Thanh Nguyen + Thao Nguyen

Belonging & Collective Action: Viet Thanh Nguyen + Thao Nguyen

Author: Ben Arthur December 30, 2025 Duration: 49:16
Pulitzer Prize-winning author Viet Thanh Nguyen (The Sympathizer) gives a talk about belonging at a live performance at the Litquake Festival. San Francisco State University’s Dr. Russell Jeung speaks about founding Stop AAPI Hate and Asian identity and belonging. He describes how the pandemic seems to have revived and strengthened longstanding hate towards Asian Americans, and explains his term for collective action against this, “flocking.” Thao Nguyen (of the Get Down Stay Down) plays a new song called “Keep It Moving.” Chapters: 00:04:58 Viet Thanh Nguyen speaks about belonging at a live event during in San Francisco. 00:27:05 Dr. Russell Jeung speaks about his research on belonging, collective action, and the founding of Stop AAPI Hate. 00:40:20 Thao Nguyen introduces her new song. SongWriterPodcast.com Instagram.com/SongWriterPodcast Facebook.com/SongWriterPodcast TikTok.com/@SongWriterPodcast YouTube.com/@SongwriterPodcast SongWriter is a music and songwriting podcast that turns stories into songs. Host Ben Arthur invites writers, poets, and musicians to share a story or poem, then pairs it with an original song written in response. Along the way, the show explores the creative process through intimate conversations and performances. Guests have included Questlove, Susan Orlean, David Gilmour, David Sedaris, George Saunders, and many more. Distributed by PRX, SongWriter also appears on the syndicated radio program Acoustic Café and in Paste Magazine. Learn more at SongWriterPodcast.com.  Season seven is made possible by a grant from Templeton World Charity Foundation

There’s a certain magic in hearing a story and then, moments later, hearing that same story transformed into a completely new song. That’s the experience at the heart of SongWriter turns stories into songs, hosted by Ben Arthur. Each episode begins with a celebrated author-voices like Joyce Carol Oates, George Saunders, or David Sedaris-sharing a personal narrative, a fragment of memory, or a crafted tale. Then, a musician-from legends like Steve Earle to innovators like Questlove-takes that raw material and, often in real time, shapes it into an original piece of music. What unfolds is a rare, intimate look at the creative alchemy between two art forms. You’re not just getting a story and a song; you’re sitting in on the fascinating conversation in between, where Ben Arthur guides you through the decisions, the surprises, and the emotions that guide a narrative into melody and lyric. This podcast is a celebration of collaboration, revealing how the same idea can resonate so differently through words alone and then through chords and a chorus. It’s for anyone curious about where songs come from and how a great story can echo in entirely new ways.
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