205. Meeting Hate with Kindness: Matthew Stevenson’s Journey of Radical Welcome

205. Meeting Hate with Kindness: Matthew Stevenson’s Journey of Radical Welcome

Author: Monica Berg and Michael Berg February 25, 2025 Duration: 48:29

What happens when you completely disagree with someone’s beliefs but still choose to show them human dignity? In this episode of Spiritually Hungry we talk to Matthew Stevenson, a Jewish student who invited Derek Black, once a rising leader in the white nationalist movement, to his weekly Shabbat dinners. Instead of debating or condemning Derek, Matthew offered connection—an approach that, over time, played a crucial role in Derek questioning and ultimately rejecting white nationalism. Tune in to hear how a simple act of compassion helped transform a life.


Further Reading:

Rising Out of Hatred by Eli Saslow


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