Accountability in Government: Glenn Fine on the Crucial Role of Inspectors General, the Government's Watchdogs

Accountability in Government: Glenn Fine on the Crucial Role of Inspectors General, the Government's Watchdogs

Author: Stanford Law School March 20, 2025 Duration: 28:18

How do we prevent or catch mismanagement, corruption, and waste of taxpayers' dollars in federal agencies? On January 24, 2025, days into his second administration, President Trump fired Inspectors General from 17 different federal agencies, including the Department of Labor. If no one is watching, does that mean there's nothing to see?

In this episode Pam Karlan is joined by Glenn Fine, a former Inspector General of both the Department of Justice and the Department of Defense. Glenn highlights the extensive work involved in detecting and deterring waste, fraud, and abuse within these massive agencies. He discusses the differences between the DOJ and DOD, emphasizing the unique challenges and the importance of understanding each agency's culture and operations. Through detailed examples, including politicized hiring at the DOJ and a tragic incident at the Bureau of Prisons, he illustrates the breadth and impact of the investigations conducted by Inspectors General—and the essential function of these watchdogs in maintaining integrity and accountability within federal agencies. Earlier in his career, Glenn served as an Assistant United States Attorney in Washington D.C., where he handled criminal cases, including more than 35 jury trials. He also worked in private practice in two law firms.  He is the author of the book Watchdogs: Inspectors General and the Battle for Honest and Accountable Government, with a foreword by General Jim Mattis. He currently is a fellow at the Brookings Institution and serves as an Adjunct Professor of Law at Georgetown University—and as a visiting lecturer at Stanford Law School.

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(00:00:00)  Introduction and Overview of the Inspector General's Role

(00:03:52) The Impact of Inspector General Reports

(00:04:39) Notable Investigations at DOJ and DOD

(00:15:56) The Role of the Defense Criminal Investigative Service

(00:17:23) Coordinating COVID-19 Relief Oversight

(00:27:59) Importance of the IG's role in maintaining government accountability


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