DS9 s4e16 "Bar Association"

DS9 s4e16 "Bar Association"

Author: Matt Mira and Andrew Secunda February 22, 2026 Duration: 2:24:26

Rom becomes a union man! O'Brien reveals just how bored he was on the Enterprise! And Worf...is vaguely disgruntled with living on DS9?

[Episode discussion begins around 1:15]


Ever find yourself in a spirited debate with a friend about a TV show you love, while they just don't see the appeal? That's the core dynamic of Star Trek The Next Conversation. Hosted by Matt Mira, a devoted authority on "Star Trek: The Next Generation," and Andrew Secunda, who approaches the franchise with a healthy dose of skepticism, this comedy podcast uses the vast universe of Star Trek as a playground for hilarious and thoughtful discussion. Currently journeying through the complex world of "Deep Space Nine," though often revisiting TNG, the show captures the feeling of two friends on a couch, breaking down each episode scene by scene. You'll hear them dissect everything from legendary character moments and narrative innovations to the occasional clunky special effect or puzzling plot hole, all with genuine affection and sharp wit. The conversation naturally flows from deep-cut lore to absurd tangents, making it accessible for die-hard Trekkies and curious newcomers alike. This isn't a dry analysis; it's a celebration and a roast, a deep dive fueled by camaraderie and differing perspectives. Tune in to join Matt and Andrew as they navigate the final frontier of television, finding laughter and insight in every strange new world and familiar face.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 100

Star Trek The Next Conversation - a comedy Star Trek podcast currently about TV's Deep Space Nine DS9 (or TNG)
Podcast Episodes
DS9 s3e20 “Improbable Cause” [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:43:24
It's a road trip with Garak and Odo (who we probably shouldn't forget about)! Will they solve the mysteries of what's happening on DS9? Or is Garak too much of a lazybones?[Episode discussion begins around 1:30. 45ish -…
DS9 s3e19 “Through the Looking Glass” [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:18:12
It's a Mirror episode, and you know what that means! Andy's gonna like it and Matt's gonna hate it - OR will our opinions be mirror-universed too?? Sisko steps into the Mirror Universe and boy, is he sorta shrugsville ab…
DS9 s3e18 “Distant Voices” [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:18:00
Bashir grapples with aspects of himself...like his professionalism! And his great love of tennis! It kinda doesn't really go beyond that.[Episode discussion begins around 1:23]
DS9 s3e17 “Visionary” [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:16:23
O'Brien goes all Back to the Future 2, Bashir kills him and doesn't seem to care, and Matt and Andy ask who's the real MVC? O'Brien...or O'Brien??[Episode discussion begins around 1:14]
DS9 s3e16 “Prophet Motive” [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:29:04
The Grand Nagus is acting kooky and it takes us several acts to find out why, but when we do, oh boy!.....we know then. But buckle up, because Dr. Bashir is nominated for an award, and Andy and Matt can't wait to hear wh…
DS9 s3e15 “Destiny” [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:06:00
The sparks fly between O'Brien and a filthy Cardie, while Andy asks how long we'll be watching Kira's new haircut, and Matt continues his lobbying for the Dominion.[Episode discussion begins around 1:05ish]
DS9 s3e14 “Heart of Stone” [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:16:28
Kira faces becoming a permanently encased-in-resin collectible as Odo reveals a hidden - or possibly already pretty obvious - truth! Meanwhile Sisko performs a one man intervention scene on Nog in Nog's best ep so far. […
DS9 s3e13 “Life Support” [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:11:47
Kai Winn returns to DS9 with an evil...nothing? And Bareil sings his swansong as only he can...tediously.[Episode discussion begins around 1:17]
DS9 s3e12 “Past Tense, Part II” [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:08:19
The second part of DS9's eerie vision of the "past" (aka 2024) as Sisko continues to masquerade as "Bell, Gabriel Bell" (Bond theme) while Frank Military continues to be an intimidating criminal to no one.[Episode discus…