DS9 s4e3 "The Visitor"

DS9 s4e3 "The Visitor"

Author: Matt Mira and Andrew Secunda August 19, 2025 Duration: 2:20:12

Candyman Tony Todd appears as Jake Sisko through the ages - and in some insane age make-up! Todd and Avery Brooks also go head-to-head in a real theatrical-acting-off! Meanwhile Matt asks the question - couldn’t somebody at Starfleet have helped Jake with any of this? 

[Episode discussion begins 1:13ish. Voyager spoiler at 13:50ish for those who practice. OR IS IT NOT EVEN A SPOILER BECAUSE WE’VE WATCHED IT?]


Ever find yourself in a spirited debate with a friend about a TV show you love, while they just don't see the appeal? That's the core dynamic of Star Trek The Next Conversation. Hosted by Matt Mira, a devoted authority on "Star Trek: The Next Generation," and Andrew Secunda, who approaches the franchise with a healthy dose of skepticism, this comedy podcast uses the vast universe of Star Trek as a playground for hilarious and thoughtful discussion. Currently journeying through the complex world of "Deep Space Nine," though often revisiting TNG, the show captures the feeling of two friends on a couch, breaking down each episode scene by scene. You'll hear them dissect everything from legendary character moments and narrative innovations to the occasional clunky special effect or puzzling plot hole, all with genuine affection and sharp wit. The conversation naturally flows from deep-cut lore to absurd tangents, making it accessible for die-hard Trekkies and curious newcomers alike. This isn't a dry analysis; it's a celebration and a roast, a deep dive fueled by camaraderie and differing perspectives. Tune in to join Matt and Andrew as they navigate the final frontier of television, finding laughter and insight in every strange new world and familiar face.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 100

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Podcast Episodes
DS9 s4e16 "Bar Association" [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:24:26
Rom becomes a union man! O'Brien reveals just how bored he was on the Enterprise! And Worf...is vaguely disgruntled with living on DS9?[Episode discussion begins around 1:15]
DS9 s4e15 "Sons of Mogh" [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:09:23
Tony Todd returns, killing it as Kurn as he demands that Worf kills him! Is Worf's solution honorable or extra weird and messed up?[Episode discussion begins around 55:00]
DS9 s4e14 "Return to Grace" [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:44:28
It's back-to-back weirdos being weird about Kira, but this time it's Dukat! In an A plot that runs the length of the episode without check-ins back at the station, Kira and the ex-Gul enter a game of cat and mouse (or Bi…
DS9 s4e13 "Crossfire" [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:07:34
Kira forgets about Odo in this heart-breaking, difficult-to-watch, but undeniably great episode. And Odo FINALLY doesn't forget to use his T-1000 silver weapon hands to do SOMETHING.[Episode discussion begins around 51:0…
DS9 s4e12 "Paradise Lost" [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:13:30
Is a badmiral trying to Make Earth Great Again? Has Avery Brooks finally found a plot to match the size of his performance? And can he outsmart Not Nick Lacarno from Not Nova Squadron? Either way, Not Leah Brahms may sav…
DS9 s4e11 "Homefront" [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:02:13
Dangers abound back in Sector 001 and that means it's time for a Sisko family vay-cay! Ben and his dad perform at the top of their lungs, Odo escapes Dax's merciless bullying to go seagull-to-seagull with the changelings…
DS9 s4e10 "Our Man Bashir" [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:17:38
Is Bashir the greatest Bond of all? If so, nobody tell Cubby Broccoli's legal department![Episode discussion begins around 1:01]
DS9 s4e9 "The Sword of Kahless" [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:05:40
Worf joins Dax and his celebrity crush Kor for the grandest adventure of all until the Klingons go inexplicably insane.[Episode discussion begins around 58:00]
DS9 s4e8 "Little Green Men" [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:59:22
In this delightful time-travel romp, the Ferengi trio jaunt over to apparently nearby Earth and find themselves Roswelled! And does Odo/James Cromwell eat/murder a dog? Matt and Andy discuss![Episode discussion begins ar…
DS9 s4e7 "Starship Down" [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:45:30
Sisko is out of commission, Kira finally learns how to treat him like a regular friend and not with all the reverence due the Emissary (had she been doing that?), Worf plays out the ol' "person suddenly in command who ne…