DS9 s4e7 "Starship Down"

DS9 s4e7 "Starship Down"

Author: Matt Mira and Andrew Secunda October 13, 2025 Duration: 2:45:30

Sisko is out of commission, Kira finally learns how to treat him like a regular friend and not with all the reverence due the Emissary (had she been doing that?), Worf plays out the ol' "person suddenly in command who needs to learn how to be command" trope, and Bashir and Dax get cracking on retconning Bashir. But don't forget about Odo! Actually, you probably can except for one scene.

[Episode discussion begins around 1:23 - for a whopping 2:45 for a regular episode! Mostly nonsense.]


Ever find yourself in a spirited debate with a friend about a TV show you love, while they just don't see the appeal? That's the core dynamic of Star Trek The Next Conversation. Hosted by Matt Mira, a devoted authority on "Star Trek: The Next Generation," and Andrew Secunda, who approaches the franchise with a healthy dose of skepticism, this comedy podcast uses the vast universe of Star Trek as a playground for hilarious and thoughtful discussion. Currently journeying through the complex world of "Deep Space Nine," though often revisiting TNG, the show captures the feeling of two friends on a couch, breaking down each episode scene by scene. You'll hear them dissect everything from legendary character moments and narrative innovations to the occasional clunky special effect or puzzling plot hole, all with genuine affection and sharp wit. The conversation naturally flows from deep-cut lore to absurd tangents, making it accessible for die-hard Trekkies and curious newcomers alike. This isn't a dry analysis; it's a celebration and a roast, a deep dive fueled by camaraderie and differing perspectives. Tune in to join Matt and Andrew as they navigate the final frontier of television, finding laughter and insight in every strange new world and familiar face.
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