SLP 339: PDA vs. ODD: A Guide to Supporting Pathological Demand Avoidance in Schools

SLP 339: PDA vs. ODD: A Guide to Supporting Pathological Demand Avoidance in Schools

Author: Sue Larkey March 30, 2026 Duration: 44:52

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In this episode, we will discuss:

✅ PDA vs ODD: PDA is autism-based; ODD recognizes authority.
✅ Authenticity Essential: PDA individuals instantly detect false or inauthentic behavior.
✅ Real Choices: Offer exactly two options, never open-ended.
✅ Structure Plus Autonomy: Combine routine with freedom like holidays.
✅ Shared Demands: Working together halves perceived anxiety and demands.
✅ Fresh Daily Starts: Each day deserves a clean slate.
✅ Emotional Honesty: Model feeling words and processing aloud.

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The Sue Larkey Podcast-Autism (ASD), ADHD, ODD and PDA education is a practical resource for parents, educators, and carers navigating neurodiversity. Hosted by experienced teacher and consultant Sue Larkey, this podcast translates complex topics into actionable advice you can use straight away. Each episode focuses on real-world strategies for supporting children and teens across the spectrum, including those with co-occurring conditions like Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, Oppositional Defiant Disorder, and Pathological Demand Avoidance. The conversation spans from early intervention through the teenage years and into adulthood, addressing the evolving challenges and opportunities at each stage. You’ll hear clear explanations of often-misunderstood behaviours, alongside evidence-based techniques for communication, learning, and reducing anxiety in home and school settings. The tone is consistently empathetic and grounded in decades of hands-on experience, making specialist knowledge feel accessible. While the core of the podcast is Sue's direct guidance, she frequently incorporates insights from other professionals and the lived experiences of families. It’s designed to be both informative and reassuring, offering a sense of community and practical next steps. For those who want to dive deeper, show notes often point to related books and downloadable resources available on Sue's website, extending the learning from each audio session. This is a podcast that understands the daily realities of supporting neurodivergent young people, prioritizing useful takeaways over theory.
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