953: Beyond “Agent Washing”: AI Systems That Actually Deliver ROI, with Dell’s Global CTO John Roese

953: Beyond “Agent Washing”: AI Systems That Actually Deliver ROI, with Dell’s Global CTO John Roese

Author: Jon Krohn December 30, 2025 Duration: 50:37
Dell Technologies’ John Roese talks to Jon Krohn about the phenomenon of “agent-washing”, his contribution to Dell’s incredible revenue boost in 2025, and why “knowledge layers” will be crucial to future tech. Hear also John’s predictions for where AI is going to lead us in 2026, from better, clearer governance, data management methods and definitions for agentic AI, to systems that keep AI tools and our data running and secure with the help of “AI factories” and “sovereign AI”.  This episode is brought to you by MongoDB and by Y Carrot. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/953⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (01:31) John Roese’s predictions for AI in 2026 (11:28) How John increased ROI at Dell Technologies (18:59) John’s predictions for AI in 2026 (40:13) How Dell’s clients are using AI factories

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945: AI is a Joke, with Joel Beasley [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 56:11
Is there humor in data? Joel Beasley, host of Modern CTO, tells Jon Krohn how he used AI to turn his sights to stand-up comedy. He also shares his tips on tech leadership that he learned from his popular podcast, Modern…
944: Gemini 3 Pro: Google’s Back on Top [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 8:21
Google is steaming ahead with launching its top-league new Gemini 3 Pro model across their product suite, from Google Search to Vertex AI cloud services. The multinational tech company is also letting eager early adopter…
943: Creative Machines: AI in Music and Art, with Prof. Maya Ackerman [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 56:38
Creative human-AI partnerships and AI-generated music: WaveAI CEO and co-founder Maya Ackerman speaks with Jon Krohn about learning to see – and accept – AI’s potential as a creative partner in a human-centric, AI-forwar…
941: Multi-Agent Human Societies, with Dr. Vijoy Pandey [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:06:14
Vijoy Pandey imagines a bold new society in which agents and humans make scientific discoveries and complete physical tasks together, and he tells Jon Krohn about his work at AGNTCY, Cisco’s open-source platform for the…
940: In Case You Missed It in October 2025 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 43:27
Jon Krohn curates a selection of clips from the month that was. Hear from the orchestrators of an expanding AI universe in this episode of In Case You Missed It, with news, views and groundbreaking ideas from Sheamus McG…
937: How to Design AI-First Products, with Marc Dupuis [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 59:32
AI tools won’t eliminate but elevate data scientists, says Marc Dupuis. The CEO of fabi.ai talks to Jon Krohn about the new wave of AI-driven platforms that integrate workflows within popular work tools like Slack and em…
936: LLMs Are Delighted to Help Phishing Scams [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 5:07
How much power – and risk – do we carry around with us in our pockets? A Reuters investigation about how easily LLMs can be utilized for online phishing scams is the subject of this week’s Five-Minute Friday with Jon Kro…