Gary Schneider (on Peter Hujar)

Gary Schneider (on Peter Hujar)

Author: Russell Tovey and Robert Diament June 20, 2025 Duration: 1:12:57

We meet Gary Schneider to discuss his photography, and his collaboration printing for Peter Hujar and other aritsts. Born in South Africa, Gary Schneider is a photographer whose early practices in painting, performance, and film remain integral to his explorations of portraiture. He strives to marry art and science, identity and obscurity, figuration and abstraction, the carnal and the spiritual. He was raised during apartheid, emigrating to New York in 1977 at the age of 22, and much of his work is informed by the racial issues he grew up with. Genetic Self-Portrait (1997-1998), for example, is a series of images of his own genetic material in which nothing identifies race. Also included in this exhibition are forensic images that use the strategies he developed in Genetic Self-Portrait.


These include body imprints of himself and John Erdman, his muse since 1977, and a handprint portrait of the South African artist Senzeni Marasela. It is from a project produced between 2011-2015 funded by a Guggenheim Fellowship which realized Gary’s desire to meet and make portraits of the community of South African artists thriving post-apartheid. He has been making handprint portraits since 1993 and considers them to be as expressive as any portrait of a face, more private, and perhaps more revealing.


In other portraits (face and figure), made since 1988, the person lies under an 8x10-inch camera in the dark. The exposure is made by the artist slowly exploring their features with a small flash-light, over a long period of time. This traces both his and their performances and produces distortions in color and form that he further manipulates during the printing process.


As mentioned in a recent Frieze article: Artist and master printer Gary Schneider was a close friend and occasional subject of Peter Hujar, the New York-based photographer famed for his empathetic photographs of artist and writer friends, drag performers, nude lovers, farm animals and cityscapes. Since Hujar’s death in 1987, Schneider has been entrusted with making prints of his late friend’s work, a process he describes in engrossing detail in his recent book Peter Hujar Behind the Camera and in the Darkroom (2024). More than three decades spent poring over Hujar’s photographs has given Schneider an unrivalled insight into how their austere elegance was achieved. Here, he remembers what it was like to work with Hujar, the ‘eccentricities’ of his prints and how their years of friendship and collaboration inspired his co-curation, with John Douglas Millar, of ‘Eyes Open in the Dark’ at Raven Row in London – the first comprehensive UK survey of Hujar’s photographs to date.


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