Exploring The Mostly Lousy Bills, Panthers Pipeline

Exploring The Mostly Lousy Bills, Panthers Pipeline

Author: Blue Wire June 16, 2025 Duration: 1:20:52

On this episode of Talking Buffalo, Patrick Moran is joined by Joe From Queens to discuss several topics, including an examination of the (mostly lousy) Carolina Panthers to Buffalo Bills pipeline since Sean McDermott came to Buffalo in 2017.

The Bills have obviously been very good during the McDermott/Brandon Beane tenure through this point, making the playoffs all but one year (2018) and have won the AFC east the past five seasons. There's a lot of reasons for their success, but upon examination the constant Panthers to Bills pipeline isn't really among them. The Bills have had 19 players come over from Carolina that played for the Panthers while McDermott was still there. The guys go through and it becomes apparent quickly that the vast majority of those players stunk as Bills. Among them discusses is Star Lotulelei, Vernon Butler, Kelvin Benjamin, AJ Klein and Mike Tolbert. There's also five other players who spent at least two seasons with Carolina after McDermott was gone and ended up with the Bills after and they really weren't much better.

Also, James Cook reported to and participated fully in minicamp last week, which was a pleasant shock to many people including Joe, who just last week predicted Cook wouldn't play for Buffalo until Week eight. They discuss the hot topic that's been at or near the top of Bills storylines all season that seemingly got put to bed.

Also, who's the third best quarterback in Bills history after Jim Kelly and Josh Allen? That plus Joe's Mt. Flushmore of worst fathers, Patrick's True or False segment and much more.

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There's a particular kind of passion that comes from following Buffalo sports, a mix of unwavering hope and hardened realism that Talking Buffalo captures perfectly. Hosted by Buffalo-born Patrick Moran, this Blue Wire podcast dives deep into the heart of the city's teams, with a primary focus on the emotional rollercoasters provided by the Bills and Sabres. Patrick doesn't just report on games; he lives them, offering a perspective that can swing from critical skepticism to full-blown optimism in a single conversation. That authentic, sometimes self-deprecating fan voice is exactly what drives each episode. The show regularly features interviews with guests from across the sports world, media, and even pop culture, providing unique angles and insider insights you won't find elsewhere. It’s this blend of local passion, candid analysis, and diverse conversations that gives the podcast its character. You'll hear the highs, the lows, and all the gritty commentary in between, all filtered through the experience of someone who truly understands what it means to invest in these teams. For anyone who bleeds blue and red or simply appreciates the complex narrative of a sports city, Talking Buffalo feels like a conversation with a knowledgeable, and admittedly opinionated, friend.
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