LIVE From AI Summit: AI That Only Gets Paid When It Works (Inside Tinman AI)

LIVE From AI Summit: AI That Only Gets Paid When It Works (Inside Tinman AI)

Author: Brave Software January 7, 2026 Duration: 21:27

Leah Price, Vice President of Tinman AI Platform at better.com, breaks down why traditional subscription-based pricing no longer works and how outcome-driven AI can unlock real value for enterprises. She also shares how embedded AI, avatars, and automation are transforming the mortgage experience for both lenders and borrowers, and what the future of AI-powered financial infrastructure could look like.

Key Takeaways: 

  • How Tinman AI embeds generative AI across an entire mortgage tech stack

  • The limitations of traditional ROI models in enterprise AI adoption, and Tinman's vision for outcome-based pricing

  • How AI avatars and bots reduce borrower friction and improve trust

  • What the future of mortgage lending could look like with AI as infrastructure

Guest Bio: Leah Price serves as Vice President leading the Tinman® AI Platform at Better, the AI-powered homeownership company. Under her leadership, the Tinman AI Platform will be offered to lenders and brokers across the country as an API-accessible platform.

Previously, Leah led the Office of Fintech and the Office of the Chief AI Officer at Federal Housing Finance Agency, leading initiatives in emerging technologies such as artificial intelligence and blockchain. Earlier in her career, Leah held leadership roles at Figure Technologies and at Fannie Mae, where she was on the launch team of Day 1 Certainty® and other product innovations. She served as co-chair of MISMO's Emerging Technology Community of Practice, and was a Senior Advisor to MISMO.

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