Hour 2 - We Never Wavered


Author: iHeartPodcasts October 13, 2025 Duration: 36:54
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Hour 2 - We Never Wavered

Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show continues its deep dive into the historic Middle East peace agreement brokered by President Donald Trump. Buck Sexton is joined by columnist and podcast host Karol Markowicz for a compelling conversation on the geopolitical, cultural, and moral dimensions of the peace deal and the return of hostages from Gaza.

The hour opens with reflections on Trump’s bold assertion that the peace agreement will endure, marking a pivotal moment for Israel and the broader region. Buck and Karol discuss the emotional impact of the return of 20 hostages, the horrors they endured, and the global silence surrounding their captivity. Karol highlights the failure of European nations to support the peace process and praises the Trump administration for its decisive leadership.

A central theme is the weakening of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran. The hosts explore internal power struggles within Gaza and the role of regional players like Egypt, Qatar, and Turkey in enforcing the peace. They credit Trump’s strategic pressure and military actions—particularly the 12-day war with Iran—for reshaping alliances and forcing Hamas to accept terms they initially rejected.

Karol emphasizes the need for a cultural shift in Gaza, advocating for a future built on peace, prosperity, and coexistence. She praises Trump’s deal-making approach and the economic incentives that could transform Gaza into a stable, thriving region. The episode includes a live segment from Trump’s speech in Egypt, where he declares that World War III will not begin in the Middle East and calls for a future free of ancient feuds and hatred.

As a Jewish American conservative, Karol shares her personal reflections on the past two years of rising antisemitism and hostility toward Israel. She expresses gratitude for the support from the political right and describes the emotional significance of Hostage Square being renamed Freed Square in Israel.

The hour also critiques the United Nations, questioning its relevance in light of Trump’s success in achieving peace without its involvement. A caller from Pennsylvania echoes this sentiment, suggesting the UN has become obsolete and praising Trump’s direct diplomacy.

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