705. Inside A Modern Psychedelic Church - With Brian Robertson and Graham Pilger

705. Inside A Modern Psychedelic Church - With Brian Robertson and Graham Pilger

Author: Mark Walsh May 29, 2025 Duration: 41:29

I caught up with my mates from Austin, Brian Robertson and Graham Pilger, the founders of a psychedelic church that defies all the usual stereotypes. We talked about creating spiritual connection without dogma, and how their community uses psychedelics to foster healing, transformation, and real human connection - with a healthy dose of humor.

I've done their journeys twice, and they're not culty, not therapy, and not just a trip. We dive into what actually happens at these events, how they're integrating embodiment and trust, and what shifts when you bring your mum along for the ride. It's deep, it's playful, and it's definitely one of the more unique conversations I've had.

See more from Brian and Graham here: https://ledgeway.org

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Brian Robertson is best known for creating Holacracy, a popular self-management framework for organizations, and more recently for building Ledgeway Sangha, a psychedelic church and community-building organization that helps people release judgments & resistances into loving acceptance of all that is.

Graham Pilger is a psychedelic facilitator, counselor, and researcher specializing in trauma-informed, relational healing and personal transformation through integrative therapies. He collaborates with leading experts and institutions while running a private practice and co-leading community-based retreats through Ledgeway Sangha.

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