#11 "You start to perceive life as a dance that goes up and down"

#11 "You start to perceive life as a dance that goes up and down"

Author: Pontus Hildebrand February 1, 2026 Duration: 1:00:25

In the eleventh episode, I talk with Vivika Mäkelä. Among many interesting reflections, she shares her view on why it is so helpful to both lead and follow.

Links and resources

Vivika's instagram: @vivikamakela


Music mentioned in the episode: 

Menestrel do Sol - Luiz Gonzaga

Alucinado - Paratodos

Ó Do Forró

Mariana Aydar

Jackson do Pandeiro


Vivika's dance inspiration:

Luiz Henrique: @luizz_henriqueee 

Nick Anderson: @niickdf

Arthur Lorenzo: @artthur_lorenzo

Andrezza Pacheco: @andrezza.pp

Pamela Barrón: @pamelabarron.sales

Icaro Abreu: @icaro_abreu

Lucas Dumont: @lucasdumontdumas

Yse Góes: @ysegoesforro


Podcast intro/outro music by Tempo Parou


A playlist will all the songs mentioned in the podcast so far: Music from The Forró Flow

Social Media

Instagram: @theforroflow


Hosted by Pontus Hildebrand, The Forró Flow digs into the vibrant world of forró dance, moving far beyond just steps and music to explore its profound impact on human connection and personal wellness. Each conversation circles around a central curiosity: what is it about this particular dance that draws people in, and how does the act of dancing reshape their sense of self and community? The dialogue often touches on those elusive, magical moments on the dance floor-instances of pure connection or transcendence that dancers chase and sometimes find. Guests on this podcast bring a wide spectrum of experience, from those taking their first tentative steps to individuals whose lives have been intertwined with forró’s rhythm for decades. Their shared thread is a palpable, deep-seated passion that makes every episode unique. Listening, you’ll hear personal stories of discovery, the challenges and joys of learning, and honest reflections on how moving to this music fosters mental and physical well-being. It’s a space where the cultural heartbeat of forró meets individual narrative, all woven together with the songs that soundtrack these journeys. Tune in for thoughtful, human conversations that celebrate dance not just as a hobby, but as a vital thread in the fabric of a lived life.
Author: Language: en-us Episodes: 18

The Forró Flow
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