Ep 11. Silence is Deadly: How Trey's Law is Taking the Muzzle Off the Truth

Ep 11. Silence is Deadly: How Trey's Law is Taking the Muzzle Off the Truth

Author: Godly Response to Abuse in a Christian Environment (GRACE) November 13, 2025 Duration: 1:03:29

Guest: Elizabeth Phillips.

In this NEW interview, we discuss "taking the muzzle off the truth" with guest Elizabeth Phillips, the primary advocate behind Trey's Law in Texas. Join Robert, Zane, and GRACE Assistant Director, Emily Petrie, as we talk with Elizabeth about her brother's story and how it inspired the legislation that is rewriting the use of NDA's in child abuse cases. Plus, some ponderings about why Superman works a 9-5, if cats really are evil, and what it means to find hope in dark places.


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Note: This interview originally took place in August of 2025 and some legislation or statistics may have changed since its recording.

Disclaimer: All opinions expressed by podcast guests are their own and may not represent the views of GRACE as an organization. Similarly, the presence of a guest on the podcast does not constitute an endorsement of them, their work, or any organization they represent. This podcast is also not a forum for GRACE to discuss past, present, or future investigations or engagements but rather to draw out broader themes, principles, and research around abuse in faith contexts.


There’s a difficult conversation happening in many faith communities, one that can no longer be avoided. The Grace Awakening: Reckoning with Abuse in the Church is a space where that conversation is centered with clarity, compassion, and a commitment to truth. Hosted by the team at GRACE-Godly Response to Abuse in a Christian Environment-this podcast goes beneath the surface to examine how power operates, how systems can fail, and why patterns of harm persist within Christian contexts. You’ll hear from leading experts, journalists, and thinkers who help dissect these systemic issues, not to condemn from a distance, but to navigate a path toward accountability and healing. Each episode tackles tough, necessary questions, often focusing on stories and dynamics that have remained hidden. The goal is understanding and, ultimately, transformation. For anyone who cares about the health and integrity of spiritual communities, this series offers vital perspective and a sobering yet hopeful dialogue. Tune in for a podcast that believes faith should be a place of safety, not secrecy.
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